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name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 14:14

Trying to find the name of the automatic brass sliding catches that when you lift a desk lid up it automatically locks, and you lift it a bit more before dropping it to unlock.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby droogs » 31 May 2021, 14:24

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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 14:31

close, but not the exact thing I remember. They were brass sliders that locked out and could stand any weight on the lid. Then a slight extension of the lid dropped the locking pin out and allowed the lid to close.
I specifically dont want friction folding hinges or gas struts.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby 9fingers » 31 May 2021, 15:10

Use typical words in a Google image search until you see what you recognise

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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 15:30

Been trying that for quite a while now. desk lid, chest lid, bureau, sliding locking, brass, antique (havent seen them for many years now.) lift up, lift down, and several more. So far not even close.
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Postby 9fingers » 31 May 2021, 15:41

Change the words then to key features
I used " locking top hung cabinet hinge" and got this hit which might be what you want
https://www.locksonline.com/Steel-Swing ... s-747.html

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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby droogs » 31 May 2021, 15:53

old fashioned click and lift cabinet stays

https://www.gjohns.co.uk/cupboard-fitti ... -stay.html
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 15:56

No, they wont work. I'm making an outside TV box, wall mounted, for a friend. I was going to make side hinged swing open doors, just like mine which he saw and said was fine for him.
Now we get into the build and he tells me he doesnt have enough side room to have opening doors W.T.F?
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Now I have to come up with either a lift up or drop down cover. But we are talking 900 mm x 550 mm, and even in 9 mm ply thats an awful lot of weight up in the air on a spring. Factor in that sometimes its damn windy in the evenings, and that lid could go up and down like a yo yo unless its locked in the up position.

Droogs, thats the idea, but those need you to actually stick your fingers in there to push the bars up to allow it to drop.
Consider the captive audience here, OAP ex - pats, outside in the dark trying to lock up the TV before staggering off to bed all the worse for wear :eusa-dance: and the chances of someone losing a finger is too great to consider.
I need the fully automatic (mechanically automatic) lift a bit higher and lower it down.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby Lurker » 31 May 2021, 16:16

Gas strut used to hold tailgate open.
Assume that you have scrap yards over there.

Get a few as the metal part makes a great burnisher for card scrapers.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 17:48

I'm desperately trying to avoid gas struts. they leak down quite quickly and the lid is a fair weight when leverage is added in.
It might end up that way if I cant find my alternatives, but I dont like them.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby Gregmcateer » 31 May 2021, 20:02

Bob,
Not exactly what you describe, but hafele do lots of stay up hinges for kitchen cupboards. Have a gander at their stuff might give you a solution
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 31 May 2021, 20:32

I've surfed the hafels site, thanks, but no, those are all friction clamps. this lid is heavy enough that the friction to hold it up would be too stiff for a frail OAP to pull it back down.
I used to see lots of the things I'm looking for, but they must have gone out of fashion.
I really dislike gas struts, but its heading that way to get the job done.
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby NickM » 01 Jun 2021, 08:12

Bob

Is this the sort of thing you had in mind: https://www.wixroyd.com/en/catalog/access-components/stays/lid-door-stays/lid-stays/n0500/g+m+c+s+a?

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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby novocaine » 01 Jun 2021, 08:25

here you go Bob. MGBGT boot lid catch.

https://www.scparts.co.uk/sc_en/tailgat ... 92298.html

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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 01 Jun 2021, 10:51

Dave, at 100 quid plus shipping, thats 3 times the value of the cabinet :shock: :shock: In fact I can remember a time when you could buy an mgbgt for very nearly that much :lol: :lol:

Nick, thats more like it. Not the image I had in my mind (old, brass, lots of visible parts) but it seems to be able to do the job. Thanks very much :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:
Now I just have to find a price, and see if he wants to wait for it to be shipped here.
One small step for man...... 8-) :lol:
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Re: name for a desk lid locking catch

Postby sunnybob » 01 Jun 2021, 10:53

found the price, about 30 quid.
I will be doing a site visit tomorrow to talk final details with him. I'll let you know 8-)
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