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Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 10 Jun 2020, 18:21

Next on the list is a spontaneous purchase I made off facebook. A rough little RS6". It came from a master wheelwright in devon. Its missing its tool banjo which is going to hard to find. I had one in my stash but used it on another lathe a couple of months ago.

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It dates from 1948 which I was surprised at, I thought it would be older due to the window in the main casting.

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It was extended a bit

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For some reason the pins that hold the motor bracket were not in their right place, and had been hammered on.

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Its supposed to have a collar on this end.

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The pins will need some work

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To check the bearings you just grab hold of the spindle and lift it, if theirs any movement it needs bearings. This one does.

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A good sign of dodgy bearings is copious amounts of grease as that fixes everything.

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This is my home made tool for unscrewing the nut

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Then stick a long thing in the hole and hit with a hammer

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And voila, the other end cap comes off

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The stepped pulleys do not have a grub screw

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Then you have to pull the spindle with one hand and catch the stepped pulley with the other.

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I don't normally remove all of the existing paint but this is a bit nasty. I had a bad experience with a lathe I did a little while back. I spent along time prepping everything and got a horrible reaction when doing the top coat. This cost about £7O in wasted materials.

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To keep dust to a minimum I scraped everything off, it would be nice to have it shot blasted but its not an option. After an hour of scraping my elbows regretted my decision to remove everything. Tennis elbow and repetitive motions don't mix

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Then I had a bright idea to use my elcheapo carving machine. Works well but blunts quickly

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One of the bargains of the week was these, the company must of listed them incorrectly on ebay, with a 99p starting bid. I paid £1.7O for a box.

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Another Aldi special tool.

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Malc2098 » 10 Jun 2020, 19:08

Nicely.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Mike G » 10 Jun 2020, 19:23

Excellent..another Wallace restoration! :)

Wallace, it would be really helpful if either your title or opening paragraph said what the machine was. You've done it this time (lathe), which is what reminded me. I'll admit to having watched previous threads of yours all the way through to the end without having a clue as to what the machine does.......because most of us aren't familiar with Wadkin machinery letters and numbers.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 12 Jun 2020, 17:45

Mike, I'll do a little writeup and post some catalogue pics on future threads :D

A bit more done, as you can see the paint is a bit pants.

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Some of it was hard going and I had to resort to a hammer and chisel

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Then I got a bit carried away with the fettling

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The shed was a bit mucky afterwards

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby DaveL » 12 Jun 2020, 18:59

That workmate looks a little unhappy!
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 12 Jun 2020, 20:09

DaveL wrote:That workmate looks a little unhappy!


I'm always amazed how much the poor thing can handle
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby kirkpoore1 » 13 Jun 2020, 22:39

I was going to suggest a needle scaler, and then Pop!, it shows up in the last picture. I've tried one once and was pretty cool. I have friends who swear by them.

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 14 Jun 2020, 00:14

kirkpoore1 wrote:I was going to suggest a needle scaler, and then Pop!, it shows up in the last picture. I've tried one once and was pretty cool. I have friends who swear by them.

Kirk


The only problem is they are air hungry and my little compressor struggles
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 19 Jun 2020, 10:22

A bit more done, There is a broken bolt in the headstock, this attaches the bed. It must of been really tightened to snap the head off a 5(8ths bolt. I tried a stud extractor pretty much knowing it wouldn't work. These things rarely do.

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Next I tried welding a nut on, this generally works but not this time. After 7 attempts I gave up

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Next a bit filler

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The screw for the offset turning was missing

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I got Mr Doubleboost off of that youtube to make a new one.

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Heres a clip of him doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TMH9YveOyM

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Malc2098 » 19 Jun 2020, 10:43

Nice. Watched the video, too. Great.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 25 Jun 2020, 17:41

A bit more done, I got he bed filled and prepped

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I'm undecided what to do with the window at the top of the head stock. I could put some Perspex in or have the on off buttons mounted on a piece of metal

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Been working through a box of parts

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I use my little disc sander which has Velcro on to easily change the grits so touch up each flat on the bolts. Then polish

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Their was a nice dealers tag on the bed, if you wire wheeled this it would be ruined

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It looks similar to the union jubilee tags

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This is the outboard bearing cap, I've never come across a ring before

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Also I've never come across gaskets on the inboard side.

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The casting were a bit rough so I cleaned them up on the lathe

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Malc2098 » 25 Jun 2020, 21:45

Nice.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Robert » 25 Jun 2020, 22:36

Yes, nice just watching but this one looks like a lot of work with all that filling and sanding.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby TrimTheKing » 26 Jun 2020, 11:42

Robert wrote:Yes, nice just watching but this one looks like a lot of work with all that filling and sanding.


Yep, did they not bother filling them from the factory originally? Did they just allow a thick coat of paint to fill any casting pits?
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 27 Jun 2020, 09:37

Originally they used a black lead based filler, during war time they just painted bare castings, then they used a white spray type filler.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 03 Jul 2020, 18:11

Everything got a splash of zinc primer followed by more filler

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made a bit shiny

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Then to the motor

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Once you take the pulley support of the end you must remember to knock the tapered pin out before attempting to take the stepped pulley off. Sometimes the pin is barely visible. I've heard of a few people sticking a puller on and pulling the lip off the pulley.
This is the big end of the tapered pin.

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This is small end that you have to hit to get the pin out, you cant see it at all so I had to guess

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That's not seen a grease gun in a while

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Ready for bodge

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Sanded the pulley

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This lathe was missing its banjo and came with a fabricated one, so I'm going to use the one off my lathe and hopefully come across one to replace it.

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I painted this nearly 9 years ago hence the clown paint, I hope I've improved since then

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I've been asking around trying to find a tool carriage to put on this, then I remembered I got given a broken one off a dealer.
This is off a very early RS lathe and is probably 9O years old

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Its missing some adjustable gibs so I thought I'd seek the help off Mr Doubleboost once more.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Rod » 03 Jul 2020, 22:51

It’s looking good - how many spare bits have you stored?

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Malc2098 » 04 Jul 2020, 09:17

Looking good.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 04 Jul 2020, 09:24

Rod wrote:It’s looking good - how many spare bits have you stored?

Rod


My workshop is quite big 15m by 5m and is quite full of junk. My daughter at the age of 22 no longer uses her wendy house I built for her which is 12'by8' this is now an overflow junk store, I mean parts department :D
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Postby Malc2098 » 04 Jul 2020, 09:59

:D
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Robert » 04 Jul 2020, 10:03

I read the 'forgot I had it' comment last night and was also wondering just how much you must have stored up :)

As always enjoying following the progress.
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby wallace » 07 Jul 2020, 17:15

Just to illustrate what a state my place is in, this was my work shop 5 years ago.

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And now a it of a dump

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A bit more, the broken part of cross slide is in the capable hands of Mr Boost, the gibbs are going to be done by his friend who can machine grind them to spec.

Scraped and fettled. I only use scotchbrite and brake cleaner on the machined surfaces

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One thing I've noticed doing machines is cast iron is more resistant o rust and pitting than steel.

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I got offered a pretty cool lathe recently. A super 7 that's been stored for 25 years without been used. Its still got its shipping grease on it.

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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Andyp » 07 Jul 2020, 17:52

Where there is work there is no order.

great to see a messier workshop than mine :)
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Malc2098 » 07 Jul 2020, 18:32

Loving the shiny bits!
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Re: Wadkin RS6

Postby Rod » 07 Jul 2020, 22:01

Things are getting shiny.
That Myford lathe must be worth a few coppers nowadays.

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