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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Phil » 23 Jun 2020, 18:59

Right, so lets give it another bash.

More accurate measuring/weighing

Found the electric hand mixer which is great to mix all the wet ingredients.

Also found the Kenwood with mixer pieces.

The dough was no better than last time, so it was just dumped onto the baking sheet.

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After 50 minutes it was done.
Tastes fine.



THE DEMON FROM HELL!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

The Kenwood.
Mix all the dry ingredients.
Looks like a snow storm. C-R-A-P what a mess!

Ok, stop machine and start adding the liquids.

Oooooooooooo, big c-r-a-p bits of dough flying everywhere.

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The little thing that holds the head down while mixing, yes the little knob. Well it sprung itself lose and ooooooooooo, big c-r-a-p bits of dough flying everywhere again.

The dough is still too sloppy, so add another cup of flour - refer to mess above, more of the same.
Looks like a snowstorm! :lol: :lol:

I ended up mixing by hand just to get it finished.

They look ok and taste ok. Again very nice scone recipe.

Took a long time to clean up the counter top and floor and everything else within reach of the snowstorm.

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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Jun 2020, 19:07

:lol:

Great fun! Much better than going to supermarket and buying a loaf.

I've got a Kenwood thingy. It doesn't behave like yours!
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Phil » 07 Jul 2020, 20:24

I am a sucker for punishment :lol: :lol:

This is try 3 - same recipe but using brown flour, no sugar or raisins.

All mixed by hand


And, here is the log! Actually looks like proper dough.

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Split into 2 chunks and into the oven

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This is one cut in half. Still too hot, should leave to cool down. Mental kick for next time.

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What was it like?
Very nice, very dense and very filling! :D

Give it at least a 6 out of 10.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Malc2098 » 07 Jul 2020, 20:32

:text-bravo:
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Pinch » 11 Jul 2020, 14:12

I'm wondering if sausages can be cooked in a bread maker?

I'm thinking setting the timer so when I go downstairs in the morning, sausages are ready to serve for breakfast. 8-)
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby MY63 » 11 Jul 2020, 23:01

Pinch wrote:I'm wondering if sausages can be cooked in a bread maker?

I'm thinking setting the timer so when I go downstairs in the morning, sausages are ready to serve for breakfast. 8-)

What if you put the sausages inside the dough in the breadmaker that would save another step in the process
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby flying haggis » 15 Jul 2020, 15:25

the paddle in the pan might make a bit of a mess of the sausages though!!
PS for cutting fresh home made bread get an electric carving knife ie moulinex etc usually a couple of quid at car boots. and it is a power tool after all..........
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Gill » 15 Jul 2020, 19:39

I'm quite happy with my Lie Nielsen breadknife, thank you.

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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Woodbloke » 16 Jul 2020, 08:01

Gill wrote:I'm quite happy with my Lie Nielsen breadknife, thank you.

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Provided the blade is really sharp, it will go through fresh bread quite easily and doesn't need to have a serrated, 'wavy' edge - Rob
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Robert » 16 Jul 2020, 09:37

This talk of knives reminds me I need to look for a longer bread knife. All this home baking often gives me an oversized loaf compared to shop bought. Need at least a 10" bread knife but I'll not be looking at Japanese type prices. Now what can I get for £20 on Amazon..
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby MattS » 16 Jul 2020, 12:11

Do they have serrations on both sides? Don't think you should be able to sell a bread knife without serrations on both sides, they just wander and are useless! Seems to be loads out there like that though.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Phil » 25 Sep 2020, 10:57

This is the best so far of all the mixes.
Same soda bread recipe without raisins etc. About 2 T-spoons of brown sugar added, no salt.
50% Rye 50% Brown flour. White flour can also be added.
Crush some anaseed, origanum and basil.
Nice thick texture, freezes well.

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Take 2 slices out the freezer. Microwave for 30 seconds on high.
Generous spread of marg/butter
Some decent thick slices of mature cheddar
That is lunch!
8-)


I enjoy rusks and coffee, so while making a mess of the kitchen decided to make some rusks.

See recipe used below.
Needs a bit of tweaking to get the dough flatter and make thinner rusks.

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Buttermilk Rusks

• 1 Kg Flour *
• 2 Large eggs
• 1 X 500ml Buttermilk
• 250gr baking margarine
• ½ Cup sugar (brown) **
• Baking powder 3 teaspoons (Skip if using Self-Raising flour)
• Baking soda 3 teaspoons ***
• Aniseed 2 teaspoons crushed
• Salt to taste (I add nothing - not allowed salt/sodium) The Margarine might be salted. I use unsalted butter.
* Flour - use a mixture of Brown flour, Rye flour, and White bread flour. Ratio depends on your taste
** Sugar - Brown or white depending on taste
*** Baking Soda can be left out. Again a personal taste

Method
1. Make sure you have all the ingredients!
2. Nice big mixing bowl
3. Mix all the dry ingredients in the mixing bowl (all by hand)
4. Melt the Margarine/Butter in the microwave
5. Add ¾ of the buttermilk to the Margarine/Butter leaving ¼ on the container
6. Crack the eggs into a dish (check for shells etc.) and then pour into the buttermilk container - remember to screw the lid on tightly!
7. Shake vigorously and then add contents to Margarine/Butter
8. Use an electric mixer and beta up thoroughly.
9. Gradually add the liquid to the flour mixing very carefully. This is a manual procedure using a large wooden spoon
10. Eventually you get what looks like good tacky dough, a bit of cooking oil on hands prevents sticking.
11. Using one of the oven trays, line it with baking paper
Decision time ……………….
12. Roll pieces of dough about 100mm long - like a sausage roll. Place the rolls onto the baking paper. You should be able to cover the whole sheet, depending on the size of the tray.
OR ………………….
13. Press the dough as flat as possible across the whole baking sheet

14. Oven at 180c
15. Tray on the middle shelf
16. Bake for 40 minutes (check using a thin metal spike) remove from oven
17. Let it cool down completely
18. If roll rusks, break apart and place on the cooling tray
19. If flat one piece, use a plastic slicer to cut blocks (there is a unit that can be bought to do the cutting)
20. Set oven to 100c and the fans kicks in
21. Place the cooling tray in the middle
22. Leave for about 4 hours. Check a thick piece for moisture
23. If dry, turn off oven and leave the rusks in the oven to cool off (overnight)

Finally a large mug of coffee and then dunk away!
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby sunnybob » 25 Sep 2020, 18:41

I am constantly amazed that the one bread maker everyone loves is a Panasonic. You would have thought all the other companies could produce something that works, wouldnt you?
I've had 2 panasonics. I think the first was bought in the very early 90's. made literally thousands of loaves in it, had to buy a new pan and paddle. Gave it to my son when we left the UK for Cyprus, but bought a new panasonic to take with us. That was 12 years ago, still producing perfect bread.
Every other bread maker I have ever heard discussed is hiding in an unused cupboard, or waiting to be donated to a charity shop.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby heimlaga » 25 Sep 2020, 19:14

Around here the great favourite is Electrolux Hushållsasistent. A Swedish design from the 60-ies still in production though now under the Ankarsrum name.
Ours has belonged to my aunt who used it to bake bread for her family for 40 years at least. Two rubber feet and a plastic knob needed replacement and it was more than time to shift the oil in the gearbox. After that overhaul one and a half year ago it is in use again.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Woodster » 25 Sep 2020, 23:08

I noticed our old Panasonic SD-251 is really looking the worse for wear these days. It’s over 16 years old for sure and could be a few years older. I’m not sure which one to buy now as they sell five different models. They’re also still out of stock at some retailers. Which models do you guys have?
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby sunnybob » 26 Sep 2020, 06:07

Mine is an SD255. It has a little box on top that allows raisins and other stuff to be automatically added during the bake. Its 13 years old now, still working perfectly. Dont dump it because its old.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby RogerS » 26 Sep 2020, 07:43

I agree. The build quality of kitchen stuff was, almost without exception, much better years ago. We have an old Stellar electric wok. The Teflon layer is one of the best I've had. Sadly it's starting to wear but we will carry on using it because I have yet to find anything as good on the current market.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Mike G » 26 Sep 2020, 07:54

Lazy so-and-so's. :) :) I mix the ingredients in a Kenwood Chef, leave for an hour and a half, then knead the dough by hand, leave to stand for half an hour, and stick it in the oven. I've found this rather simple and satisfying since the invention of the electric timer.....
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Malc2098 » 26 Sep 2020, 08:34

Mike G wrote:Lazy so-and-so's. :) :) I mix the ingredients in a Kenwood Chef, leave for an hour and a half, then knead the dough by hand, leave to stand for half an hour, and stick it in the oven. I've found this rather simple and satisfying since the invention of the electric timer.....



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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby DaveL » 26 Sep 2020, 08:43

Mike G wrote:Lazy so-and-so's. :) :) I mix the ingredients in a Kenwood Chef, leave for an hour and a half, then knead the dough by hand, leave to stand for half an hour, and stick it in the oven. I've found this rather simple and satisfying since the invention of the electric timer.....
The other advantage of this method, it gets your hands really clean!
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Woodster » 26 Sep 2020, 10:44

It’s not so much a matter of ease of use for me, it’s just that the Panasonic achieves a more consistent result.
I do make other doughs like Pizza with our Artisan mixer.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby sunnybob » 26 Sep 2020, 10:54

You realise the panasonic makes pizza dough? I'm not a fan of ordinary white flour dough so I usually put 50% wholemeal in.
makes a very tasty pizza.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Mike G » 26 Sep 2020, 13:48

I just make normal dough but don't let it prove, for pizza. Get it as thin as you can, get the toppings on, and get it in the oven as soon as you can.
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Re: Breadmaking Machine

Postby Andyp » 26 Sep 2020, 14:03

Mike G wrote:Lazy so-and-so's. :) :) I mix the ingredients in a Kenwood Chef, leave for an hour and a half, then knead the dough by hand, leave to stand for half an hour, and stick it in the oven. I've found this rather simple and satisfying since the invention of the electric timer.....


Will someone provide me with a refuge for after I tell the missus she should get up at 4.00 to hand make the bread rather than set the machine on a timer. :) :)
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