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wallace wrote:Did anyone watch this on netflix, I knew about factory fishing ships and bi catch but did not really understand the impact on our oceans. As creatures we are truly awful things that decimate everything we touch.
RogerS wrote:Trouble is, Wallace, there are simply far too many mouths to feed on this planet.
MattS wrote:....
The many mouths to feed comment is interesting when you consider the small number relatively speaking of wealthy Western nations who do most of the damage.
RogerS wrote:I think you'll find that the global environmental impact of China is also quite high! I take your point, though.
Trevanion wrote:RogerS wrote:I think you'll find that the global environmental impact of China is also quite high! I take your point, though.
From making practically everything for the West.
RogerS wrote:Trevanion wrote:RogerS wrote:I think you'll find that the global environmental impact of China is also quite high! I take your point, though.
From making practically everything for the West.
But if they din't churn out such cheap **** . Not sure if it's chicken or egg TBH.
AJB Temple wrote:We have to hope that our children are smarter than us. However you look at it we:
Pollute the seas and air
Cause soil degradation with our agricultural methods
Overpopulate the planet
Cannot feed the most overpopulated areas
Are resistant to population control in the name of individual human rights
Focus scarce resources on prolonging natural life spans
Permit less than 1% of the global population to control 99% of wealth and resources
Are detrimental to other species leading to rapid extinctions
Cause global warming, changing both sea levels and planetary axis
Waste enormous quantities of natural resources
Wage pointless wars
Endlessly argue about borders
Adopt a short termist “hope for the best” outlook.
Our inability as a species to see and act on the bigger picture will be the root of our downfall as we all protect our bit of space and lifestyle. Just wish I had a solution. The basis of it would have to be start from a clean sheet of paper and recognise that we are all in this together and our children and grandchildren will suffer if we keep being stupid.
Sheffield Tony wrote:RogerS wrote:...
But if they din't churn out such cheap **** . Not sure if it's chicken or egg TBH.
The reason a lot of Chinese tut is as bad as it is, is that is exactly what we ask them for. Cheapest possible. That's why the manufacture is subcontracted to China. It is not that they aren't capable of better. Just our greed wants everything for nothing.
wallace wrote:.... Apparently we consume about a credit cards worth of plastic a week.
AJB Temple wrote:Have you found the original research paper Roger? The link in the article was to this WWF summary http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/pl ... ingles.pdf
but of course they have an agenda. It is pretty clear though that we use excessive amounts of plastic in daily life. Using disposable plastic water bottles for instance is barmy. In fact its pretty barmy buying bottled water in the UK at all.
By catch policy to throw back (dead) what is beyond quota is clearly daft, indeed immoral, and always has been.
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