It is currently 28 Mar 2024, 23:47

Malcolm's Garden Workshop (The Side Doors)

Roll up, roll up. Here you will find everything from new workshop designs, through builds to completed workshop tours. All magnificently overseen by our own Mike G and his tremendously thorough 'Shed' design and generous advice.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Almost finished!)

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Dec 2019, 10:26

Phil wrote:(doing some catch up reading ......)

Malc, that really looks smart! Job well done. :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:

Hope you sat back and enjoyed a couple of beers :obscene-drinkingcheers:

What are you planning to do now that all that work is completed?

Phil


Hi, Phil. Thanks. I've still got to make the balustrade around the deck and do a little landscaping and that'll be it!
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Almost finished!)

Postby Phil » 22 Mar 2020, 13:24

Malc2098 wrote:
Phil wrote:(doing some catch up reading ......)

Malc, that really looks smart! Job well done. :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:

Hope you sat back and enjoyed a couple of beers :obscene-drinkingcheers:

What are you planning to do now that all that work is completed?

Phil


Hi, Phil. Thanks. I've still got to make the balustrade around the deck and do a little landscaping and that'll be it!



Dear Malcolm,

Regarding the above subject, there has been no activity since December 2019. Looks to be about 3 months?
Please provide an update to the support group.

Kindest regards
Phil - who invented the term and wrote the books on procrastination :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
We don't stop woodworking because we grow old, we grow old because we stop woodworking!

https://www.instagram.com/phil_pretoria/
User avatar
Phil
Old Oak
 
Posts: 3499
Joined: 23 Jul 2014, 05:11
Location: Southern Africa 0054
Name: Phil

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Almost finished!)

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Mar 2020, 15:20

Phil wrote:
Malc2098 wrote:
Phil wrote:(doing some catch up reading ......)

Malc, that really looks smart! Job well done. :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:

Hope you sat back and enjoyed a couple of beers :obscene-drinkingcheers:

What are you planning to do now that all that work is completed?

Phil


Hi, Phil. Thanks. I've still got to make the balustrade around the deck and do a little landscaping and that'll be it!



Dear Malcolm,

Regarding the above subject, there has been no activity since December 2019. Looks to be about 3 months?
Please provide an update to the support group.

Kindest regards
Phil - who invented the term and wrote the books on procrastination :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Not a lot of people know this, and this is one of the few things I remember from Latin at school, but the word procrastination comes from the Latin word, cras, meaning tomorrow. I remember heri, hodie, cras - you work out what the other two are! :D

I have left Grantland Timber with a cutting list, and I believe I am 3rd on their client list. The oak sawing on the video this morning is for their 1st client and as the weather has been dry, the oak has been accessible and I got pushed down the list.

The cutting list contains the raw bulk for the ballustrade for the deck and also for the doors, which will be the traditional framed ledge and brace design and I will mill all the timber from the bulk supply.

I've even bought a couple of bad-boy TGV router cutters for the vertical door battens! (Not bad-boy brand, you understand, bad-boy real rufty tufty cutters from CFT!)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 10 Apr 2020, 21:41

Part of the delivery from Grantlands came a few days ago, so I started on the newel posts.

I shall be studding them through the deck and joists.

IMG_3501.JPG
7 cut to just over length.
(298.57 KiB)


IMG_3503.JPG
Squaring them up.
(333.81 KiB)


IMG_3507.JPG
Setup for length and pyramid top.
(339.25 KiB)


IMG_3510.JPG
15 degrees tilt.
(329.23 KiB)


IMG_3512.JPG
7 pyramided and all the same length.
(360.59 KiB)


IMG_3513.JPG
Top edges rounded over.
(280.26 KiB)


IMG_3519.JPG
Long edges rounded over.
(284.31 KiB)


Seven Devon Larch newel posts ready for Osmo.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 18 Apr 2020, 20:22

Three newel posts in place.

IMG_3559.JPG
(496.66 KiB)


I'm quite chuffed with those bubbles.

IMG_3558.JPG
(386.03 KiB)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 18 Apr 2020, 20:35

Today's job was find a way to mould the balustrade handrail from the sawn timber.

First I cut 10 degree angles off either side, then turned it onto that angled cut and returned a 90 degree angle.

IMG_3562.JPG
(316.03 KiB)


Then over to the router table and used a bearing guided rounder bit on that 90 degree angle on each side.

IMG_3563.JPG
(297.46 KiB)


IMG_3564.JPG
(313.71 KiB)


IMG_3565.JPG
(312.08 KiB)


Next I needed to rout out the groove to accept the spindles and fillets.

IMG_3566.JPG
(361.14 KiB)


This isn't a finished fillet, it's just and offcuts of the spindles to check for fitting.

IMG_3567.JPG
(357.08 KiB)


Start milling spindles.

IMG_3568.JPG
(331.56 KiB)


Next, tomorrow, I've got to start making 6 metres of the handrail, not forgetting to flatten that little peak on top of the handrail. I sanded it on the test piece and received approval from Mission Control to go ahead! :)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby DaveL » 18 Apr 2020, 22:13

That's a very neat rail you have machined, well done.
Regards,
Dave
My tool kit is almost complete, only a few more to get.
User avatar
DaveL
Old Oak
 
Posts: 1918
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 21:07
Location: Sudbury, Suffolk
Name: Dave

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Mike G » 19 Apr 2020, 08:24

Looking good Malcolm. Are you going to soak those cut ends (newels) in preservative? They're pretty vulnerable.
User avatar
Mike G
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9834
Joined: 30 Jul 2014, 22:36
Location: Suffolk
Name:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 19 Apr 2020, 10:53

DaveL wrote:That's a very neat rail you have machined, well done.


Thanks, Dave.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 19 Apr 2020, 11:01

Mike G wrote:Looking good Malcolm. Are you going to soak those cut ends (newels) in preservative? They're pretty vulnerable.



Thanks, Mike. The newel posts tops have been soaked in osmo wood protector left over from my kitchen project. The posts have been wiped with it and the bottoms soaked, too. I've also taped the bottoms with a wide aggressive tape left over from the geo textile jointing of the soakaway crates because the posts are studded down through the deck beams, but bear on top of the decking profile which is ribbed and carries rainwater till it dries.

I've also ordered another tin.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby bluebirdnick » 19 Apr 2020, 11:02

Malcolm, where did you get those castors for your workbench? They look to be exactly what I need. Thanks!
bluebirdnick
New Shoots
 
Posts: 112
Joined: 13 Jun 2017, 22:33
Location: Herts
Name:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 19 Apr 2020, 11:47

bluebirdnick wrote:Malcolm, where did you get those castors for your workbench? They look to be exactly what I need. Thanks!



Hi Nick,

When I got these, the only others available were Rockler, and the Powertecs were considerably cheaper.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/POWERTEC-17000-Workbench-Caster-Pack/dp/B00SX3T2LO

Although I think there are other alternatives now.

I wouldn't be with out them. Everything in my workshop is on wheels because of the limited space, and my workbench is the one that gets moved around the most.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby bluebirdnick » 22 Apr 2020, 16:10

Thanks Malcolm!
bluebirdnick
New Shoots
 
Posts: 112
Joined: 13 Jun 2017, 22:33
Location: Herts
Name:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 24 Apr 2020, 17:08

Handrail, lower rail, infills and spindles all moulded for the the first panel of balustrade.

Now I'v just got to sand this lot. :)

IMG_3582.JPG
(311 KiB)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 26 Apr 2020, 20:37

First panel dry fit.

I find that spreadsheets help me to calculate the gaps! :)

BTW, there's a newel post behind that roofing post.

IMG_3593.JPG
(456.04 KiB)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby fiveeyes » 27 Apr 2020, 00:44

fiveeyes
Sapling
 
Posts: 352
Joined: 28 Dec 2014, 02:56
Name:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Apr 2020, 10:23

fiveeyes wrote:https://woodgears.ca/shop-tricks/spacing.html
Hey Malc...try this


I got a little lost reading that, but then I might be going stir-crazy.

I calculated a notional gap width of 100mm and spindles of 40mm to give me the number closest to the width between newels. Then I decreased the gap 1mm at a time to get the exact width of the gap. Where there were fractions of a mm over, then I added these on to the end two gaps.

Then I accurately cut all the infill pieces and marked their undersides with their sizes and position and fitted them and all the spindles starting at each end, working towards the middle

Worked for me, but then I suppose there are many ways to skin a cat!
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby 9fingers » 27 Apr 2020, 10:38

Malc2098 wrote:
fiveeyes wrote:https://woodgears.ca/shop-tricks/spacing.html
Hey Malc...try this


I got a little lost reading that, but then I might be going stir-crazy.

I calculated a notional gap width of 100mm and spindles of 40mm to give me the number closest to the width between newels. Then I decreased the gap 1mm at a time to get the exact width of the gap. Where there were fractions of a mm over, then I added these on to the end two gaps.

Then I accurately cut all the infill pieces and marked their undersides with their sizes and position and fitted them and all the spindles starting at each end, working towards the middle

Worked for me, but then I suppose there are many ways to skin a cat!


Malcolm, in your excel work, look for the "goal seek" function. It will adjust one parameter in order to set another one to a desired value. So in your case it would adjust your spacing given all the other constraints.
There are more complex solvers built in but I reach for goal seek most of all of them.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 10038
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Apr 2020, 11:18

9fingers wrote:
Malc2098 wrote:
fiveeyes wrote:https://woodgears.ca/shop-tricks/spacing.html
Hey Malc...try this


I got a little lost reading that, but then I might be going stir-crazy.

I calculated a notional gap width of 100mm and spindles of 40mm to give me the number closest to the width between newels. Then I decreased the gap 1mm at a time to get the exact width of the gap. Where there were fractions of a mm over, then I added these on to the end two gaps.

Then I accurately cut all the infill pieces and marked their undersides with their sizes and position and fitted them and all the spindles starting at each end, working towards the middle

Worked for me, but then I suppose there are many ways to skin a cat!


Malcolm, in your excel work, look for the "goal seek" function. It will adjust one parameter in order to set another one to a desired value. So in your case it would adjust your spacing given all the other constraints.
There are more complex solvers built in but I reach for goal seek most of all of them.

Bob


Thanks Bob. I've not used Excel since I retired so I've not kept up with its functions. I've been using Libre Office at home, so I'll research if that has a similar function.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Apr 2020, 11:22

Bingo - I think?!

Applying Goal Seek

With the help of Goal Seek you can calculate a value that, as part of a formula, leads to the result you specify for the formula. You thus define the formula with several fixed values and one variable value and the result of the formula.

Goal Seek Example
To calculate annual interest (I), create a table with the values for the capital (C), number of years (n), and interest rate (i). The formula is:

I = C * n* i
Let us assume that the interest rate i of 7.5% and the number of years n (1) will remain constant. However, you want to know how much the investment capital C would have to be modified in order to attain a particular return I. For this example, calculate how much capital C would be required if you want an annual return of $15,000.

[i]Enter each of the values for Capital C (an arbitrary value like $100,000), number of years n (1), and interest rate i (7.5%) in one cell each. Enter the formula to calculate the interest I in another cell. Instead of C, n, and i use the reference to the cell with the corresponding value.

Place the cursor in the cell containing the interest I, and choose Tools - Goal Seek. The Goal Seek dialog appears.
The correct cell is already entered in the field Formula Cell.
Place the cursor in the field Variable Cell. In the sheet, click in the cell that contains the value to be changed, in this example it is the cell with the capital value C.
Enter the expected result of the formula in the Target Value text box. In this example, the value is 15,000. Click OK.
A dialog appears informing you that the Goal Seek was successful. Click Yes to enter the result in the cell with the variable value.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby 9fingers » 27 Apr 2020, 11:33

Yes that is the one.
in your case set up a formula for the total length
= n* spindle widths + (n+1)* spaces

Give spindle width a value and then use goal seek on "spaces" to make total length = the length that you have to fill.
If the gap is too big eg if you were doing stairs to meet the 100mm rule, then simple change the number of spindles, n and goal seek again.

All it is doing is your manual successive approximation approach but automatically possibly with newton raphson (sp?) methods. It does sometimes zoom off to infinity but tells you if it gets stuck.

good luck

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 10038
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Apr 2020, 11:57

Having had a better look at the function, it seems it is similar to what I was doing. I had variables (gaps) and fixed values (spindle and overall width) and changed the variable till I got closest to the goal (overall width).

During the last couple of years of my Police service, I applied for a role supporting the local performance manager. I had been doing front line shifts for 28 years. Anyway, MS office and Windows 95 was the software of the time. I was asked what experience/qualification's I had to show that I could use Excel proficiently.

I replied that I had A Level Woodwork. "What good is that?", they asked. "I'm good with tables", I said, and got the job. :D
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby 9fingers » 27 Apr 2020, 12:20

:lol: :lol:

In my work I had to estimate and quote for contract research/hardware build work.
I used to set up hourly rates, overheads profit etc in a formula.
I could then easily answer the commonest question from customers which was
"can we do x,y,z etc for £10k, £20k etc"
Goal seek would tell me how many hours on the bench with whatever material costs their budget would buy at the press of a few keys.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 10038
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Apr 2020, 12:41

I set up a formula to calculate all the various teams/shifts/parties of the area how many duty days they had per month, so those on leave, course, sickness, court and other abstractions should not be counted for those days and to view the difference between those groups, and what the notional amount of duty days should be for any given group. For example, a shift of older bobbies were entitled to more annual leave that a shift of younger bobbies, so they were on duty less.

There were many other things added to the calculations for management to be able to view.

The formula was 3 lines long, and I ran it once a month and it worked. Management could compare groups against eachother. Middle management could compare their own shift performance against their previous month or previous year etc.
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Decking Balustrade)

Postby Malc2098 » 06 May 2020, 21:38

Second panel dry fitted.

IMG_3622.JPG
(433.62 KiB)
Malcolm
User avatar
Malc2098
Sequoia
 
Posts: 7209
Joined: 03 Jul 2016, 11:10
Location: Tiverton
Name: Malcolm

PreviousNext

Return to Workshop Builds

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests

cron