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Hand saw a snip at $750

AJB Temple

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I am favoured by Rob Cosman's mailing list. In the run up to Christmas I got one daily. :( I know I could unsubscribe, but tool porn is one of my few pleasures.

His latest trick appears to be selling saw handles. :lol: You select a fancy handle and then choose what you want fixed to it: https://robcosman.com/products/rob-cosm ... maple-burl

Much as I like fancy wood, this is a) ar5e about t1t to me, and b) silly money.
 
Much like those Japanese Chisels with the pattern steel we were talking about the other day, this is just aesthetics over functionality. Will the saw perform better than the bog-standard Cosman Saw for having that handle on it? Not at all, it's just vanity and someone will stump up the cash for it, even though most of my daily-used hand tools would fit in the price bracket of that one saw.

After all, someone somewhere has bought it!

Cosman as a Snake Oil Salesman... All you need to know is he has two types of IBC chisels on his site, one ground at 25-degrees and one he's ground at 17-degrees in house for softwoods, the 17-degree one is $15 more for all of ten seconds of grinding.
 
Agreed Mr T.

It is on my list to locate a good "user" dovetail saw with a long blade. Might have to make one. Can't be hard to make a nice handle.
 
AJB Temple":34g58ek3 said:
Agreed Mr T.

It is on my list to locate a good "user" dovetail saw with a long blade. Might have to make one. Can't be hard to make a nice handle.
If you're into Japanese saws, the hand made one from Workshop Heaven is sublime - Rob
 
I agree with the sentiment in the comments above but have to admit to owning a Skelton Tenon Saw which I justify to myself as being part the celebration of a big birthday and part supporting home grown craftmanship (and in fairness a good day at the races if I remember correctly). It was definitely made and sharpened by the highly skilled Shane Skelton - I doubt the same can be said in respect of the wares bearing Mr Cosman's name.
 
AJB Temple":bqnlegnn said:
.......It is on my list to locate a good "user" dovetail saw with a long blade. Might have to make one. Can't be hard to make a nice handle.

Making a handle is an absolute doddle. The hardest part is cutting the slot for the blade, and carving out for the spine. There's a neat trick for the former. I've got a nice pattern which I can send you if you want.
 
Andrew E, the reviewer clearly isn’t short of a Bob or two.

I find all this US gurus selling tools at extortionate prices rather disturbing, Swartz’s lump hammer comes to mind as another example.
 
OK. It requires a bit of work as it is an MDF template in the workshop. I'll grab it next time I'm out there (this afternoon).
 
Mike G":2v3r5mnk said:
AJB Temple":2v3r5mnk said:
.......It is on my list to locate a good "user" dovetail saw with a long blade. Might have to make one. Can't be hard to make a nice handle.

Making a handle is an absolute doddle. The hardest part is cutting the slot for the blade, and carving out for the spine. There's a neat trick for the former. I've got a nice pattern which I can send you if you want.

What's the trick Mike?
I very recently re handled a Sandvik tenon saw that had a nasty plastic handle and I have another to do, getting the slot cut was definitely the most difficult.
 
You simply clamp another saw onto a block of wood the right thickness so that the teeth are horizontal and at the height of the middle of the handle you are trying to cut. You then lay the handle flat on the bench and rub it on the exposed teeth. Once you've got 10 or 12mm in all around, then it's easy to finish off with the handle in the vice. I guess it's a bit like using a kerfing saw (kerfing plane?) for resawing.
 
Thanks Rob. I will have a look. As you know I am into Japanese knives and tools, and I do have a few Japanese saws bought in Japan and use them regularly. They were inexpensive. However, for dovetails, for reasons I can't put my finger on, I do a better job with a back saw than a pull saw.

I do already have a Veritas dovetail saw that is 14 tpi. It's a good tool but I would like something with a much longer blade and a stiff brass back.

I've looked at the Skelton saws but in these straightened times, and with me having taken a year off from work, I've decided to develop skill rather than chuck money at things. I would like to make a saw of my own, from really nice wood and a top notch blade, with teeth cut and set by me.

More than happy to be guided on this, and I know Mike has done similar before. I don't have wood for the handles yet (I will do more than one) and my plan for the blade is to buy some old saws from eBay as blade donors. Might be a but thick for a dovetail saw, but we shall see.

I have a few Veritas saws and I like them as daily users, but I do find the blades a bit thin on the larger saws, especially the big 5" deep tenon saw.

Kind regards

Adrian
 
Thanks Mike. I can see the email is there and will download in the morning. A
 
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