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new square not square?

Craig Salisbury

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I'm assuming im doing it right? this came yesterday and i have checked it against a 12" starrett combi as well as 10" and 12" engineers squares from Kinex. seems this should be a bit better for 6" and a hundred quid ?

for hands free I used a small clamp to keep it in place and a little light panel

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What brand is it? looks similar to a Sterling square send it back for that sort of money
 
Phil Pascoe":11wpenn8 said:
It's a square. It's either square or it isn't square - what it cost is neither here nor there. True it up, send it back or dispose of it.

it is exactly the point. I would expect a cheap square to be slightly out and then be pleasantly surprised, however I would expect a "premium" brand to be dead on balls accurate.
 
I've long argued that because it is so easy to adjust squares to make them accurate, you may as well buy a cheap one to begin with. Having spent the fortune you have on this, I'd send it back........but instead of getting a replacement from them, I'd pop down to your local DIY shop or builders merchant and pick something up for £8 or £10. Put the spare £90 towards something else you need, and spend less than a minute truing up the cheapie.
 
Andyp":1zaenlkv said:
Craig the first image shows the toe in contact with the reference square seems to show the heel in contact.

Have you drawn a couple of lines against a square edge having flipped the square. Best explained here.

https://www.craftsmanspace.com/knowledg ... quare.html

I should have mentioned in the last image I moved the blade to the other side. I have indeed done the double line test and its a wonky donkey
 
Craig,
It's simple - send it back and get another one, although you appear to have other squares so perhaps you don't need another one!
 
Mike G":39z5ltvz said:
I've long argued that because it is so easy to adjust squares to make them accurate, you may as well buy a cheap one to begin with. Having spent the fortune you have on this, I'd send it back........but instead of getting a replacement from them, I'd pop down to your local DIY shop or builders merchant and pick something up for £8 or £10. Put the spare £90 towards something else you need, and spend less than a minute truing up the cheapie.

I will be calling this morning to get it returned, its certainly a lot heavier than my bahco.
 
johnward":34j5a4mm said:
Craig,
It's simple - send it back and get another one, although you appear to have other squares so perhaps you don't need another one!

the 2 big engineers squares rarely get used as I didnt realise how hoofing heavy they were when i ordered them :)
 
But which one(s) are correct?
The way I was shown to test squares is on a piece of plywood/mdf etc with a straight edge place the square anywhere along the middle of the straight edge mark line with a pencil. Flip the square left to right and see how close to your line you are. Check them all the same way and then consider if the new square is out. Also with a sliding square the blade can be flipped as well so check with the blade in both ways around.
 
PAC1":2lbe2fvt said:
But which one(s) are correct?
The way I was shown to test squares is on a piece of plywood/mdf etc with a straight edge place the square anywhere along the middle of the straight edge mark line with a pencil. Flip the square left to right and see how close to your line you are. Check them all the same way and then consider if the new square is out. Also with a sliding square the blade can be flipped as well so check with the blade in both ways around.

I have performed the double line check, its ok though, CHT are fabulous. sent me a returns label and will fully refund it
 
Craig Salisbury":rc36ymsr said:
I have performed the double line check, its ok though, CHT are fabulous. sent me a returns label and will fully refund it


I’ve always found them extremely helpful definitely my go to hand tool supplier.
Just an aside if you want a similar square it’s really worth looking at the Sterling tool works squares, http://www.sterlingtoolworks.com/store/ ... ort=normal I have Chris’s small dovetail square & it’s absolutely bang on
 
Doug":2nck81yp said:
Craig Salisbury":2nck81yp said:
I have performed the double line check, its ok though, CHT are fabulous. sent me a returns label and will fully refund it


I’ve always found them extremely helpful definitely my go to hand tool supplier.
Just an aside if you want a similar square it’s really worth looking at the Sterling tool works squares, http://www.sterlingtoolworks.com/store/ ... ort=normal I have Chris’s small dovetail square & it’s absolutely bang on

That does indeed look nice, but i have to draw the line somewhere, and £150 for the dovetail + 100mm blade is a wee bit of a wee wee take. it already grinds my balls that an LN 5 1/2 in the US is the equivalent of £350 and to buy one here is £540!
 
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