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Question about my home made shed build...

Hef

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Hi gang,

I'm very much a woodwork novice, but I'm about to start building a shed tomorrow - nothing as palatial as the workshops I've seen some of you guys building, but something I can put all my tools in with a nice sturdy desk for projects.

I've drawn up some plans, ordered the wood and have sunk some piles into the ground that my base (seen below) will rest on.

The purpose of this post is to ask what you guys suggest I do at the intersection of wood where I've put the green circles. I was going to lap joints however it's been suggested that they're not the strongest of joints and there are other joints which would be better. Any ideas? Please bear in mind that whilst I'm not totally dumb, this is my first BIG project! Cheers! :)

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PS - discovered Sketchup through this forum, nice little tool!
 
Hi Hef and welcome

You have a number of options that I can see there, stick a pile of blocks under each joint then you could just toenail them together, or stagger them by the width of the timbers and just nail in through either side.

Either way I think you would want some supports along the length of that central timber for stability.

Cheers
Mark
 
I can't read the dimensions. Can someone tell me what the length and width is, please?
 
Thanks Bob. So, those timbers should be 150 x 50 at 400 centres if they are spanning the whole way from side to side. If not, they'll need supporting on a foundation of some sort in the middle, and then 100 x 50 (again, 400 C's) will suffice. Both these sizes assume no large point loads, such as heavy machines or a big bench.

Either way, the timber that runs across the middle, parallel with the 2 edge timbers, is unnecessary. It only need be a series of noggins fixed between the joists to prevent twisting.

Welcome to the forum, Hef. Don't forget.........we like photos! :)
 
Thanks for the replies, all.

I have piles as indicated by the pink dots on the pic below...

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TrimTheKing":3i47mb9z said:
stagger them by the width of the timbers and just nail in through either side.
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I did think about doing that, but thought that wasn't the "proper" way to do it! If you guys say that's ok I'll go along with what you all suggest :eusa-dance: Going to be putting 18mm OSB3 on top of the base as a floor, so I imagine that'll add some rigidity itself.

Mike G":3i47mb9z said:
I can't read the dimensions. Can someone tell me what the length and width is, please?
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Am hoping I end up with a base that's 2200 x 2100 once it's all complete! The dimensions from the picture are just from Sketchup so are a little out!

Mike G":3i47mb9z said:
Both these sizes assume no large point loads, such as heavy machines or a big bench.

Welcome to the forum, BTW. don't forget.........we like photos! :)
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For the base I'll be using 47 x 100 lengths, there'll be no heavy toys!! Just the usual shed stuff!
 
Make sure your all the OSB edges are running along the timbers for support.

Buy your OSB before you finalise the frame so that you can optimise the timber spacing to the OSB which can be 1200 or 1220 by 2400 or 2440 according the direction of the wind or so it seems.

Use pressure treated timber for the base.

A lot of what Mike has done regarding the framing should help you. Think about hatches in the walls for working on longer timbers.

Making the walls and roof structure strong will allow possible storage in the roof space.
Using synthetic slates or similar will give you so much longer life than felt and not weigh too much.

hth

Bob
 
So first thing this morning I had this lot delivered...

and
.

Laid out my wood just to make sure I got my measurements right...


Thanks to the help last night in this thread I was advised how to best put this lot together...


Screwed the OSB3 on and gave it a trim to fit the base, really pleased with how solid it is...


Built the back wall (was going to be taller but then I read the planning rules that said the whole thing would need to be lower than 2.5 metres)...


Here I was having a think about how to build the front and how to mount the window that I got second hand - I'm going to use a router tomorrow to set it securely and hold it in with some beading and sealant...


Bonus pic!
 
Good start Hef.

Don't forget, line the INSIDE of the walls with OSB, not the outside! Almost everyone gets it wrong........
 
Looking good :)

It may be worth looking on ebay for a door and proper framed window(s). You can pick up good used for not much money and sizes don't matter when you are building to suit. I've bought a few doors and windows and never had to travel too far.

The composite door and frame that now is the driveway entrance to my workshop cost me £1.04 . I have paid £100+ in the past for something the perfect size but generally they are pretty cheap.
 
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