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After delivering the computer desk I got back in the shop to assemble some doors which will be part of a summer house build I have this coming week. These will be bi fold and are made of oak as they will have glass panels fitted.


I shall start the on site build on Tuesday.....weather permitting. :roll:
 
Well, i eventually got started on the build today. I say eventually as the timber which was due to arrive at 8.30 am didn't arrive until 3.00pm! :evil: I think it helped when the customer rang them after I had three times to see what had happened. She got a bit irate on the phone and that seemed to do the trick as they then managed to get hold of the driver.....finally. Anyway I got the timbers cut for the base and then had problems with the Paslode gun I had borrowed! Undeterred out came the cordless and I set to work screwing it together. By the end of the day, well evening, I had the base down, levelled and ready for the framework. No pics as I ran out of time but will get some tomorrow when I return.
 
Well as stated after a late start yesterday I managed to get the base down.

Today was much better as I got the frame erected and on to the roof.

Also happy to report the Paslode was working faultlessly on the second gas cell. (Still not sure what the problem is with the other cell? )
By the end of the day I had got almost all the roof beams finished.

Got a friend helping me tomorrow so should get the roof finished and a start on the cladding. :D
 
Whilst it is still light enough, Alan, how about lifting that building up a couple of inches, and away from the hardstanding. That base will get soaked, and will rot eventually. Worse than that, the swelling is going to make your posh doors bind, and your customer unhappy.

Apart from that.......looking good. Looks to me like you are proposing vertical boarding externally. Is that right?

Mike
 
The base is raised off the ground Mike and it is going to have a DPM skirt around it to act as a splash guard. The cladding is going to be horizontal.
 
I know it's off the ground already, but the further off the ground the better. A DPM isn't really going to help. Anyway, it was just a suggestion.........
 
Well the weather wasn't so kind today and I didn't get a lot done. No WIP pics due to the weather either but will get some tomorrow. Did manage to get the roof panels on and the felt underlay fitted.....in the rain and wind. :roll: also got the fascia in place. Hoping tomorrow is a better day and I can start on the cladding.
 
No progress to report today due to having problems with the neighbour! :roll: First thing this morning he calls me over to state that it is too high and too close to his boundary! I did state it was under the regulation height but was a little close to his fence at half a mtr. (Next doors garage is even closer to his fence than this) he spieled off the regulations he had printer out from the internet stating it should be 3m high and 2m from his fence, which I knew was wrong but I didn't push the matter just stating I was pretty sure it was within the regs but I would check and he should take it up with my customer. I rang the planning dept and was informed the height was 4m for a ridged roof and 1mtr from the boundary. I also made sure I got the name of the man I spoke to just in case. Anyway to cut a long story short we ended up moving the summer house away from the fence which then mean't having to dig and set piles into the ground to support the front of the structure and will now have to add steps to the front entrance. :evil: Well it is now more than 1 mtr away from the fence and well within the regs if he causes trouble. I did have a feeling he was going to be trouble yesterday with the looks he gave me and my assistant, but never said a word about the height or positioning before we got the roof on it. :evil: It now means I am working tomorrow to catch up on this job due to this. :evil:
 
If you ever run into these sort of problems again, Alan, just drop me a message and I'll tell you the rules. It helps to be pre-armed!!

Mike
 
mailee":j1jdvtng said:
No progress to report today due to having problems with the neighbour! :roll: First thing this morning he calls me over to state that it is too high and too close to his boundary! I did state it was under the regulation height but was a little close to his fence at half a mtr. (Next doors garage is even closer to his fence than this) he spieled off the regulations he had printer out from the internet stating it should be 3m high and 2m from his fence, which I knew was wrong but I didn't push the matter just stating I was pretty sure it was within the regs but I would check and he should take it up with my customer. I rang the planning dept and was informed the height was 4m for a ridged roof and 1mtr from the boundary. I also made sure I got the name of the man I spoke to just in case. Anyway to cut a long story short we ended up moving the summer house away from the fence which then mean't having to dig and set piles into the ground to support the front of the structure and will now have to add steps to the front entrance. :evil: Well it is now more than 1 mtr away from the fence and well within the regs if he causes trouble. I did have a feeling he was going to be trouble yesterday with the looks he gave me and my assistant, but never said a word about the height or positioning before we got the roof on it. :evil: It now means I am working tomorrow to catch up on this job due to this. :evil:
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Mailee

I was pretty sure that the height limit is 2.5m within 2m of the boundary, i.e. you can only go to 4m if you are over 2m from the boundary, that is what the planning portal says re outbuildings (http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permis ... buildings/)? Were you told something different or is a summer house not an outbuilding?

Also, if the neighbour (and on his behalf the planning dept.) were to be looking at the height I suspect they would also say the height has to be measured from the natural ground level, i.e. from one of your pictures the lawn, and not the raised patio area it actually built on.

Would be fascinated to hear if you planners said anything different as it could give me more options for my workshop.

Wizard9999
 
Yes wizard, this morning I was told that for a Wooden structure with a ridged roof the max height is 4m with a 1m boundary. It is lower if it is a flat roof structure. It is still under the limit from the grass level as it measures 3.2m. I did ensure that I took the building and planning man's name for future reference to be on the safe side. ;)
 
mailee":1y8swo9k said:
Yes wizard, this morning I was told that for a Wooden structure with a ridged roof the max height is 4m with a 1m boundary. It is lower if it is a flat roof structure. It is still under the limit from the grass level as it measures 3.2m. I did ensure that I took the building and planning man's name for future reference to be on the safe side. ;)
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Well if you've spoken to the planning dept. and that's what they said what more can you do. Hopefully the neighbour will be happy it has been moved a bit further from the boundary and won't make any more of a fuss. Makes me think that what is said on the Planning Portal is not gospel and different councils apply varying rules, so think I will pick up the phone to my local planners to see what they tell me the rules are where I am. Very good idea to get the persons name by the way :eusa-clap:

Terry.
 
Well after all the hiccups of the past week we got a good day on the job today. As you can see we have moved the structure and built a plinth around the front. I have left enough room to remove the lower sections of ship lap so they can be replaced in the future. We got all of the cladding finished today and spent time making the infills and the trims.

By the end of today we had got all of the lower rockwool in and the vapour barrier tacked in place.

My assistant is away tomorrow so I will spend the day in the shop and get the doors ready for fitting.
 
This uncertainty about regs raises an interesting question. If you have an OK, and it later turns out that the officer was mistaken, what happens ? Do you have to change it anyway ? Is there compensation ? Does the decision stand even if wrong ?

We had a case here in Jumilhac a couple of years ago - a person was given full written approval for a cottage against detailed plans and went ahead and built it. Neighbour - a farmer - contested the approval on the grounds of being too near to his cattle shed - there is a minimum distance between a building housing animals and a human habitation. His argument took a while to be reviewed but, in the end was upheld and the planning approval withdrawn, but it was already built. The poor sod who built it now has a building she cant use and is struggling to get some form of compensation. All the authorities involved agree that it is unjust, but dont agree what to do about it.
 
Well I am almost there and just need to add the door trims and handles. Glad to say the customer is very happy with it and even the electrician was impressed. :D Will be returning tomorrow to finish off the snagging and receive a cheque. :D
 
Very tidy job :)

What is on the roof? Sorry if its already mentioned and I missed it. Looks a very neat edge detail.
 
Looks very good Alan.

How do you handle rain against the doors and seeping through to the inside?


Cheers
Phil
 
They are felt shingles on the roof Robert. I will be fitting the trim and drip rail to the doors tomorrow Phil. The bottom rail is angled slightly to the outside for any rain that creeps under and there is a drip strip under the overhang.
 
I returned to the job today to get the door trims fitted to make sure it was watertight. I have had to order the handles as no one in town had any stainless steel ones in stock. :oops: My own fault I should have ordered them earlier. I will get them fitted next week. :D

 
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