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Better storage for carving tools

AndyT

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This isn't a fully detailed w-i-p with a dozen close-ups of each tool but it might be of interest or use to someone. Some years ago a close friend died and his widow kindly gave me some of his tools, including a reasonable collection of newish Pfeil gouges. To my shame, I have never sorted out proper storage for these, or for the motley selection of other carving tools I have picked up elsewhere. Some of these even have a few spots of rust, I think from when they were left in an old fabric tool roll.

But now, inspired by some similar trays I saw listed in an online auction, I wanted to make some shallow trays which would work for long term storage but also to spread out on the bench for easy access.

In common with other recent lock-down projects, I used offcuts and salvaged materials throughout, with no shopping required.

I don't need to make a big piece of furniture to hold these trays. Back in the 1980s I made this wooden box.

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I used it as my work briefcase for several years - it was designed to be big enough to take a pack of sandwiches and a flask or a stack of LPs - but I no longer need it for either of those purposes and it has just been kicking around in the workshop gathering dust.

I decided to make two trays to fit in this box and two more to fit into another similar one, currently holding my old and unloved Black and Decker drill and attachments.

Because this is such a basic build I shall let the pictures tell the story and leave you to fill in some gaps.

Here are some abandoned bits of oak from drawers, boxes etc.

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I ripped these to size on my little 3-wheel bandsaw, then planed them to match each other.

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I then dovetailed them together to make a frame, but nobody wants an essay on how to cut dovetails so I just breezed through that in a relaxed way without stopping to pose. The camera didn't come out until this stage, where I was using a Woden Pushpin and a nineteenth century Kentish pattern strapped hammer to nail on some nasty 4mm ply (the sort veneered with paper-thin wisps of nameless far eastern wood)

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At least it's easy to trim back with a plane and some sandpaper - which you can also imagine, if you don't mind - and then it was time to cover it all in shellac and make it look beautiful.

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To support the gouges, I added a strip of wood across the tray, with shallow, angled notches. The wood was from the same old piano which supplied the wood for my centre bits box. It's quite light and soft. I marked the positions by lining up the tools and drawing round them. The easiest way to cut the notches was to use a mitre saw, in this case a cheap but surprisingly un-nasty purchase from the DIY phase of my tool-buying history, possibly made in E Germany before everything had to be made in China. It has little stops on the vertical bars so you can limit how far down the saw will cut and of course the angles are easy.

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This was followed by some chiselling

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and some routing

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and then, after a bit more planing and sanding and drilling, the supporting strip can pose in place inside the tray.

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It's simply held by screws from the back and into the ends. The slots are deep enough for the handles to rest on the bottom and although fairly tightly sized for these specific gouges they don't all have to go in the same slot every time.

It fits down into the box with a satisfying piston effect but can be lifted out as required.
There's a little bit of space where a strip of firm packaging foam can fit. The space above it will be filled by a second, similar tray so the tools won't fall out of position when the box is moved.

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Apart from the obvious question of how long it will take me to get round to making the other trays, the other big question is this.

Once I have all the tools in good order and easily accessible, I ought to have a go at carving, but what should it be? I'm open to suggestions. Maybe a Tudor Rose or two? Or perhaps a staircase? ;) :lol:
 
Woodbloke":1u6l2oo7 said:
Nice Job Andy. How about a linenfold panel? I can see how to carve one then :lol: - Rob

That's a good thought. I did have a go at one once but it was a while ago and I didn't really understand what I was doing. Another attempt could be fun. It would also help justify owning some of the hollows and rounds which take up so much workshop shelf space. :)
 
9fingers":37o3p975 said:
novocaine":37o3p975 said:
A soon so you can kee stirring. :lol:



Very nice Andy.

Has someone taken the "p" out of your keyboard Dave? :lol:

Bob

Covid, it really takes the p.

:lol:
Scary bit is I checked it before posting and couldnt see anything wrong. :shock:
 
AndyT":qcmt582k said:
It would also help justify owning some of the hollows and rounds which take up so much workshop shelf space. :)

I need to get hold of one or two of them for my forthcoming linenfold chest project. I've got most of the Pfeil 'fishtail' gouges I need (you don't actually need all that many) and I think I just need a couple more which are currently out of stock at CHT - Rob
 
Very nice Andy. A delight as always. Do you have enough gouges to fill a second tray?

Funnily enough, my wife made me a couple of tool rools a week or two back to store my gouges.
 
AndyT":2x8m1djy said:
Woodbloke":2x8m1djy said:
Nice Job Andy. How about a linenfold panel? I can see how to carve one then :lol: - Rob

That's a good thought. I did have a go at one once but it was a while ago and I didn't really understand what I was doing. Another attempt could be fun. It would also help justify owning some of the hollows and rounds which take up so much workshop shelf space. :)

How about a linenfold panel for the lid of box? The box and tray already look good, but that would really finish it off!
 
AndyT":1aboee6d said:
I used it as my work briefcase for several years - it was designed to be big enough to take a pack of sandwiches and a flask or a stack of LPs

So that was your work briefcase. Now what job requires the sandwiches, a flask and a stack of LPs?

Hmmm.

It's hardly a stack of Krugerrands, some uncut diamonds and a Walther PPK.

Oh, and enjoyable non-WIP by the way. Ignore my frivolity.
 
Tiresias":2id2ka72 said:
AndyT":2id2ka72 said:
I used it as my work briefcase for several years - it was designed to be big enough to take a pack of sandwiches and a flask or a stack of LPs

So that was your work briefcase. Now what job requires the sandwiches, a flask and a stack of LPs?

Hmmm.

It's hardly a stack of Krugerrands, some uncut diamonds and a Walther PPK.

Oh, and enjoyable non-WIP by the way. Ignore my frivolity.

No walther but he was a killer on the decks.
 
Thanks all. Sorry to be slow replying but update email alerts aren't getting through at the moment.

Mike, I know tool proliferation is a worry to you, but yes, I think the second tray will easily fill up with my old friend's tools. I've made a start on it and will update with some photos.

If I do try some linenfold, it will have to be for a new box. I'll have a look through the useful bits pile for something suitable. It probably won't be oak though. The only thick bits I have are old* and rock hard - I suspect a lot of old panelling work must have been done with greenish timber.

As for the old briefcase, I'll leave you to speculate on whether I was in charge of the lunchtime discos or whether I just chose to make one box do several jobs... I don't want to disappoint anyone with the humdrum truth!


(* I do have one very special piece of oak which is much older than the rest and definitely not for practising on. Maybe one day I will find the perfect project for it!)
 
That's very nice Andy, a fitting home for some good quality tools though why you need to justify owning them is beyond my comprehension as I can make up an excuse for any tool I could imagine. :lol:

You put me to shame and I might need to up my game and copy you. A good 35 years ago when I had almost no free time I knocked up a carry box of sorts with a drop front and a number of trays but it was quick and nasty from s/h ply and no proper joints so time it was upgraded methinks. :oops:
 
AndyT":1x42gvkw said:
If I do try some linenfold, it will have to be for a new box. I'll have a look through the useful bits pile for something suitable. It probably won't be oak though.

As far as I can tell (and I'm probably way off the mark), the panel needs to be fairly thick (15-20mm say) to accommodate the tongue that goes into the groove and then some 'meat' to do the carving. Would that not be too thick for a top of a box? - Rob
 
Rob, I think I might be able to manage a box with a sliding lid, where the thick lid is carved, with a thin margin able to slide in a groove. Not sophisticated box making, so the carving will need to draw all the attention.
One advantage is that the size of the box can be made to suit the size of the decorative top.

The groove for the lid could be set deep, to protect the carving, or shallow if you were confident that nothing would be piled on top.
 
AndyT":2pethsuk said:
Rob, I think I might be able to manage a box with a sliding lid, where the thick lid is carved, with a thin margin able to slide in a groove. Not sophisticated box making, so the carving will need to draw all the attention.
One advantage is that the size of the box can be made to suit the size of the decorative top.

The groove for the lid could be set deep, to protect the carving, or shallow if you were confident that nothing would be piled on top.
That makes sense Andy. Looking forward to seeing how it develops - Rob
 
Woodster, that's not a bad idea at all, and they clearly aren't rusty at all!

I've finished the second tray, in just the same way as the first, using more of the same materials. So just for the record, here's the finished offering, holding all of the Swiss gouges and a few others.

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The spare space can be packed out with spare packaging foam, as before.

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This means that the box can be stored vertical, with no damage to any of the edges

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and then the trays can be lifted out onto the bench to have all the tools ready to hand.

Now I just need to get the tools properly sharpened and sort out some wood to carve... :)
 
9fingers":2gp6954e said:
Andy,

It's preferable if you can, to use closed cell foam rather than sponge type which can harbour moisture and lead to rust. Closed cell foam tends to bit a little shiny and rougher to the touch than the open cell stuff.

Bob

Thanks Bob, good point. I think that's what this is, as it actually comes from a new plane I bought (Shock! :!: ) from Workshop Heaven.
 
AndyT":3q4nsgvf said:
.......a new plane I bought (Shock! :!: ) from Workshop Heaven.

Andy. Come into my office. We need to have a little chat.....







;) :lol:
 
In my defence, it was about 8 or 9 years ago that I bought it...
 
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