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[Jimmy Mack]

Hello chaps n chap'esses!

Hope you are all well, been a bit quiet of late... Though delighted to share two brand new commissions, both wood related. One starting in 2-3 weeks... the other April 2018, both likely to make a mess of me! [emoji1]

Jim

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[timothyedoran]

Congratulations. It's the best adventure I have been on yet.

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[Rod]

Congratulations on both counts.

Rod

 

[Mike G]

Fantastic, Jim!

 

[Malc2098]

Congrats! Result!!

 

[TrimTheKing]

Great news Jim! A baby too, congratulations!! [emoji6]

Cheers
Mark


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[AndyP]

Congrats Jim. Hope all goes well. Hope you were paid well for that commission

 

[Tusses]

Congrats Jim bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[Pinch]

Oh yes! What a gorgeous piece of furniture and design - a real stunner! I'm looking forward to seeing this one grow into a thing of beauty - superb. Congratulations matey!

Congrats to you and Mrs M on little one too!

bscene-drinkingcheers:

:text-bravo:

 

[Doug]

Congratulations to you both Jim I hope everything goes smoothly with both endeavours :eusa-pray:

 

[fiveeyes]

Congratulations from America!!!! bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[meccarroll]

That's very good news on both counts.

All the very best to you both.

Mark

 

[RogerM]

Wow! That's going to be stunning. Quite like the cabinet as well! Congratulations.

 

[Woodbloke]

Congratulations on both counts.

Rod

:text-+1: ...and from me - Rob

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Congratulations on both counts.

Rod

:text-+1: ...and from me - Rob

:text-+1: ...and from me - Neil

 

[Jimmy Mack]

Scorching trials begin...

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[Jimmy Mack]

...The Japanese technique of 'Shou-sugi-ban'

 

[Doug]

More importantly is the morning sickness over yet :eusa-pray:

Look forward to seeing the results of your trials Jim

 

[Jimmy Mack]

After a bit of a slow start, we're rolling.... Prepping the veneers, the grey birds eye maple is gorgeous. Ripple Sycamore bonded onto Canadian maple and Oak blanks machined up ready for *cough* CNC'ing the legs... (Poplar length for trialling)

More soon...

Jim

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[Mike G]

I was starting to wonder what had happened to this one. I've been looking forward to it.

 

[Jimmy Mack]

I was starting to wonder what had happened to this one. I've been looking forward to it.

A sort of calm before the storm Mike, getting all the parts in, final tweaks and cad/cam sorted for the legs, hopefully this approach doesn't disappoint the traditionalists.

I'm now plowing through veneering, prepared 22mm maple for the frame work, and some panels to form torsion boxes for the top and bottom of the cabinet.

I took some pictures of the panels being veneered today, using ( or most of) a method I was shown by Robert Ingham... I think Rob S knows Robert (?). Robert is an excellent maker who taught at the Makepeace Parnham School of furniture. I think this method is also shown in Robert's book.

I've shoot my veneers in a bundle with the tracksaw, it's rapid, here you can see some 2mm walnut (bit posh) backing up the cut on the top. 2nd pic pre cut.

I tape the leaves together stretching the tape, then running a length along

Flip the whole sheet and glue the joints by hanging them over the edge of the bench

Laying flat, the joints now butt jointed coopered (?) I wipe off the excess and add a couple of temp tapes to hold in place until the glue has grabbed (1hr) then I remove the temp tape from the glue face and bond it to the substrate.

This method is great for a tight joint and more importantly minimises the chance of the dreaded veneer creep.... Further still if you use a UF glue.

More tomorrow...

Jim



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[Rod]

Robert Ingham makes some very nice pieces.
I’ve spoken to him a few times at “Art in Action” at Waterperry (sadly no longer held).
A few years ago I nearly bought one of his boxes but shied away from the price (£160) - perhaps a mistake?
I have his book though [emoji3]

Rod

 

[9fingers]

Hi Jim,

I'm just about to embark of some veneering using thick (2mm ish) veneers kindly cut and sanded for me by Woodbloke (thanks Rob!) and have been taking tips from Rob who has passed on precisely the same taping method as you are using.
He has some High tack/super strong/stretchy tape that is just a bit more yellow than traditional masking tape but he bought it surplus and the store (InExcess) has run out.

What is the tape you are using please? I've seen our 'merkin cousins using some sort of blue tape for general workshop tasks but not seen it for sale here other than the catering trade first aid strips which I think is something else entirely.

Any pointers please?

TIA
Bob

 

[Rod]

I’ve got some cheap blue tape, which I’m sure I bought from Toolstation or Screwfix - don’t know if it’s the same stuff though.

Rod

 

[9fingers]

I’ve got some cheap blue tape, which I’m sure I bought from Toolstation or Screwfix - don’t know if it’s the same stuff though.

Rod

Thanks Rod
The tape Rob has is incredibly stretchy. Almost a cross between fabric elastoplast and "normal" masking tape.
I'd estimate it has 5-10% stretch!

Bob

 

[Jimmy Mack]

Hi Bob,

It's the same cheap blue stuff Rod has from Toolstation, it's got enough of a stretch IMO, I think if there's too much power here the veneer may buckle, it doesn't need a lot of force, if you need more...you might need to reshoot your edges.

'Frog tape' would be stretchier and it's adhesive has a longer open time. It's more expensive and I get through loads of the blue stuff. I like to get the tape off as soon as, usually the next morning, I suspect with purpose made veneer tapes there will be promises on the quality of the adhesive and not upsetting finishes, I've not had a problem here - yet!

HTH

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[9fingers]

Hi Bob,

It's the same cheap blue stuff Rod has from Toolstation, it's got enough of a stretch IMO, I think if there's too much power here the veneer may buckle, it doesn't need a lot of force, if you need more...you might need to reshoot your edges.

'Frog tape' would be stretchier and it's adhesive has a longer open time. It's more expensive and I get through loads of the blue stuff. I like to get the tape off as soon as, usually the next morning, I suspect with purpose made veneer tapes there will be promises on the quality of the adhesive and not upsetting finishes, I've not had a problem here - yet!

HTH

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Thanks Jim,
I doubt buckling will be a problem with construction veneers that I'm using. Incidentally, Woodbloke's method for shooting is not as I expected with a hand tool :lol: :lol: but to clamp between known straight edges and rout it with a bearing guided cutter. Rob's finally getting the hang of machinery these days :lol:
Bob

 

[Jimmy Mack]

Hi Bob,

It's the same cheap blue stuff Rod has from Toolstation, it's got enough of a stretch IMO, I think if there's too much power here the veneer may buckle, it doesn't need a lot of force, if you need more...you might need to reshoot your edges.

'Frog tape' would be stretchier and it's adhesive has a longer open time. It's more expensive and I get through loads of the blue stuff. I like to get the tape off as soon as, usually the next morning, I suspect with purpose made veneer tapes there will be promises on the quality of the adhesive and not upsetting finishes, I've not had a problem here - yet!

HTH

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Thanks Jim,
I doubt buckling will be a problem with construction veneers that I'm using. Incidentally, Woodbloke's method for shooting is not as I expected with a hand tool [emoji38] [emoji38] but to clamp between known straight edges and rout it with a bearing guided cutter. Rob's finally getting the hang of machinery these days [emoji38]
Bob

My hanging hand tools are just for show......shhh....don't tell anyone [emoji23]

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[Pinch]

Hey Jim, good show matey. Glad to see you're on the case. (No pun intended). :eusa-whistle:

This is such a classy cabinet - loves it I do!

:text-bravo:

 

[Mike G]

Veneering: that's for proper grown up woodworkers. I'll get onto that in a few years time when I feel more confident with the idea. In the meantime, I watch and learn.

 

[AndyP]

so you applying glue to the edges of 1mm thick veneer. I would have thought that when you removed the temp tape and flipped it over the joint would have failed - even if being held by tape on the other side. Fascinating.

 

[Jimmy Mack]

so you applying glue to the edges of 1mm thick veneer. I would have thought that when you removed the temp tape and flipped it over the joint would have failed - even if being held by tape on the other side. Fascinating.

I wasn't too sure at first but it's surprisingly strong. I can dangle a sheet of four leaves vertically and happily brush off any debris before laying.

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[Jimmy Mack]

Hey Jim, good show matey. Glad to see you're on the case. (No pun intended). :eusa-whistle:

This is such a classy cabinet - loves it I do!

:text-bravo:

Thanks chappie [emoji106]

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[Jimmy Mack]

Meant to post some shots of yesterday but got a bit distracted trying to get the bust boiler out of our old Villager stove...a long story short...messy, hours, grinder.... Success!


Yesterday I got the top and bottom of the cabinet assembled, both being torsion boxes.

The bottom panel is my template, Poplar frame overhanging, glued making sure my template is dead flat. I flush trimmed these on the router table with my trusty shear cut bit, before gluing / closing the box with a slightly oversize panel and a final trim.

All done X 2

It doesn't look much at the moment as I chip away at the components...Next week I'll edge band the torsion boxes and start machining up the maple (with sycamore veneer) for the framework and we should start to see the cabinet taking shape.

Jim



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[Jimmy Mack]

More veneering today...

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[Mike G]

Oooh, tasty! You must have been supremely confident in that block plane to put it anywhere near the veneer. I know, you were just trimming up the edge, but still.....

 

[Malc2098]

Nice!

 

[Jimmy Mack]

Oooh, tasty! You must have been supremely confident in that block plane to put it anywhere near the veneer. I know, you were just trimming up the edge, but still.....

Steady away I have about two mill over, I take it as close as I dare then hop over to sanding. It's a lovely looking veneer, the flash photography just about captures it.

For those that are interested...

I forgot to mention the edges have been double wrapped (1.2mm). At 0.6mm the veneer, especially in light woods needs another layer to stop the dark MDF and PLY edges showing through; a bit like knocking back a dark wall when you're decorating. This is also why Maple pre-veneered MDF was used for the main surfaces.

Jim

 

[Jimmy Mack]

Had to share...Super excited to pick up the Tulip prototype leg this morning... We spent a good bit of time tweaking the top flat detail in the CAD...My buddy has CNC'd a fantastic job. The only thing he forgot are the Domino mortices down the side, but I'll let him off [emoji3]

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[Rod]

Looking good - how long did that take to cut - must have saved a great deal of time?
What are you going to blacken it with or are you using “black” wood for the real thing?

Rod