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Flat Pack Trestle

Phil

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Just to show that I don’t spend all my time fixing tables :D , here is a small project.


Flat Pack Trestle

This is what I call a grade 8 level project just within my capabilities. Cant do too much damage. :lol: :lol:

In the very far distant past I welded up 2 trestles to use with a loose board top, fold up and stacked away.
They were made from angle iron and then flat bar on the sides that were drilled with slots to hook onto a protruding bolt. They had 3 slots giving 3 different heights.

OldMetal_Trestles.jpg

After many years of good use, they became a problem storing in the ‘new’ workshop/garage. They were also heavy and a problem picking them up.

So time to make something lighter and more ‘storable’.

It needs to be noted that these are not sawhorses. I have enough equipment to do that work.

After looking at what was on forums (think Mike) and surfing WWW, I saw some good designs.

Then arrived the Popular Woodworking e-zine with what looked like a very good idea. :obscene-drinkingbuddies:

A ‘flat pack trestle’.

This is what it looks like

PopWood_1.JPG

PopWood_3_Flat.JPG

I downloaded the article which gave all dimensions in inches. Not a problem, set up an Excel spreadsheet converting the inches to mm. Rounded the measurements to nearest mm.

First find out what the standard stock sizes are for laminated pine shelving and prices. Mica or Chamberlains, both close by.

2400mm and 3000mm are standard lengths. A width of 305mm would be fine. Thickness of 20mm will work ok.

Stock_Required_Converted.jpg

Then loaded up “PJ’s cutlist” program (create a quick Excel sheet).

Cut stock required is 80mm wide. The 305mm would yield 3 by 80mm lengths and 1 by 56mm.

Ripping on the Rockwell (we all know how to do that one)

Ripping.jpg

Stock ripped ready for cutting as per list

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This is the cut list which had to be juggled eventually after the CUF visit and height of leg changed

Trestle_CutList.jpg
All colour coded

Next step is to optimise the length and divide the components into each length, shuffling around to minimise the offcuts.

The C-U-F (cock up fairy) paid a visit.

When transcribing the measurements for Mid-Stretcher 2, I entered 8.5” instead of 11.5” (A very basic stupid elementary mistake :oops: )

This resulted in part C2 being too short, Ok, so when I fit it I can add in two bits of offcuts.
Not a train smash.

All the cut stock was marked, pencil, as per the drawings.

PopWood_4_ConstructionDiagrams.JPG

StockCut1.jpg

StockCut2.jpg

Surveying all the cut stock I took one of the legs A1, stood it upright, and decided that the trestle will be too low! 670mm

As a sawhorse the height would probably have been ok.

So, what would a good height be? 780mm
780mm it is, but ………….. all the stock has been cut to length.

That meant back to cutlist, looking at what had been cut, and what could be re-cut.
Now looking at running out of board.
Fortunately there was a piece of board that I could cut up.

Assembly

This is like painting by numbers.

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First cut off the angle bits on the top stretcher.

The plan shows all the stock glued together. As I was using good old soft-warpy SA pine I thought it prudent to glue & screw.

Screws 4.4x30mm would do the trick. Back to Mica for screws and a new bottle of Gorilla.

A quick screwing template to mark the holes for drilling.
Drill press to drill and cordless for the countersinks.

Glue_n_Screw.jpg

One upright completed

One upright completed.jpg

I was using the top of the router table for sanding, gluing and screwing and chucked an old cloth over, easier to catch the dust, glue and cleaning up afterwards.

On the feet, I cut off the top corners.
The screw template was laid out to cater for this.
First foot on RAS. Lower the blade slowly else it jams.
All going like a boeing.

Then a spark! :o

O, sh-t it Is the one screw too close to the cut off line.
Finish the cut, lots of sparks. Fish the screw out.

Screw.jpg

Removed that location screw from all the feet.
Finished trimming, they needed some sanding. So pulled out the belt sander, quick and easy.

However ……… I put the machine down before it had stopped turning. Sh111111tttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
Bad move.

It gripped the cloth so tight nothing would budge. Took a good half hour of careful cutting, picking and pulling to get it out.

Belt sander.jpg

Maybe just finish off by hand, a lot safer.

The feet are completed and look ok

Feet Complete.jpg

The uprights are fitted.
This is what it should look like ………….

PopWood_2_Feet.JPG

Everything has to be clamped accurately together before drilling the bolt holes.
Refer to PopWood pic on how the feet and uprights are held together.

All parts are stamped with a ‘1’ or a ‘2’ (stand 1 and stand 2)
The legs and feet are stamped “L” or “R”

This is to ensure that the leg fits into the correct foot (slight size variations)


End of part one ...............
 
Fitting Uprights

Fitting uprights.jpg


OneComplete.jpg

The second one went a lot faster.

I wanted to seal the pine and had some marine varnish left over from another job.
Mixed in some Rustins dark Oakstain.

Feet Stained.jpg

Some parts only had one coat as the tin emptied very quickly despite thinning with turps.

Job Done.jpg

They disassemble very easily and stack out the way on top of the metal cupboard.

Once the uprights are bolted onto the feet, it is very sturdy.

For a removable top I was going to ask son for one of his old bedroom doors.
But that then becomes another stacking problem.

I have a sheet of 18mm MDF kindly donated by a friend which I can trim to 600mm width and a length of about 1300mm.
This will give a nice size working top and the MDF will stack away with the sheet goods.

It would need to be edged to protect the MDF and also sealed with PU for easier cleaning.
?? Maybe cut 2 hand holes on either long side for picking up and moving??


On a final note, what did it cost?
(I was trained to do this!)

ZAR626.36

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Not much wastage and any usable bits can be used for scroll saw work.


Thank you for reading.

Phil

{Edit} Interesting to note that there are 228 screws 4.0*30 and 8 4.0*50
That is a lot of screwing :lol:
 
Nice project Phil, and a great post describing every step. Well done.

With all those screws, I'm surprised you only hit one! I know first hand the quality of the wood you guys have to put up with, so I fully understand why you used so many screws. Now then........what are these for? Are they like a mobile bench? I ask because they're a lot taller than saw horses.

Edit......R626 is about £30. (Your currency has gone through the floor!)
 
Thanks Mike.


My workspace is very limited, the top of the workbench and top of the router table.

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I used the old trestles with a very large PB top which just got too heavy and cumbersome for me to handle.

Cut up the PB top and ditched it - had my moneys worth from it. I then used one of the old doors from Sons house on the trestles as a worktop.
It was easy to just chuck on the back of the bakkie and work in his garage.

This is sanding one of their doors prepping for spraying.

I would also do the spraying here.

SandingInProgress2.jpg

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2277&p=56946&hilit=doors#p56946


However back here, my bakkie stood outside as I had the trestles up most of the time.
Bakkie had to be garaged, so I built the shelves.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4771&p=72149&hilit=shelf#p72149

Now back to new trestles.
When doing any finishing (oiling & waxing) I am unable to do any sawing or sanding.

Also when I start refurbishing the diningroom chairs I will need more work top space.

The thought for the top at this stage is MDF
If I go for a length of 1300mm, then I have the same space as the workbench.

The bakkie can be parked outside for a couple of days (too long and these bloody old farts start moaning)
 
Proper job, as they say round here!

Mind you, that CUF don't 'alf get about a bit! One minute it's down the SW of England, next it's over your way! :D
 
Malc2098":h6fn8b1a said:
Proper job, as they say round here!

Mind you, that CUF don't 'alf get about a bit! One minute it's down the SW of England, next it's over your way! :D

Thanks Malc.

That CUF needs to be caught, spayed, hung drawn & quartered, ripped to pieces and fed to the roaches :lol: :lol:
 
from looking at the second picture of the blue tresstles, just an observation but if the lower brace was moved down a bit and the tenon made longer and narrower where it sticks out clear of the leg the feet could be attached to the tenon for storage
 
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