• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

Hello

Trevanion":1sdvxjon said:
It doesn't really bother me at all but I know a couple of people are reluctant to join up because of the dated layout of the site and the colour scheme is a bit funky.

Could you take a screen shot of what you’re seeing and post it? I can’t help wondering if our settings are even close because the layout on my iPad is very clear. I’ve recently switched from an iPad Pro to a little iPad mini 5 and it still looks good. Here’s what I see.
 

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Mark
I've found them. They are stuck on the server. I don't know why they are not getting as far as my Mac or PC, but at least I know where they are now. There are quite a few others as well...

Thank you for taking a look.
S
 
Steve Maskery":1uernudp said:
Mark
I've found them. They are stuck on the server. I don't know why they are not getting as far as my Mac or PC, but at least I know where they are now. There are quite a few others as well...

Thank you for taking a look.
S

Ah good stuff, thanks for letting me know. Hope you can work out how to liberate them.
 
TrimTheKing":133pgi0h said:
I/we don't run this forum for monetary gain (hence the non-monetisation of the place) but purely to have a comfortable and informative place to hang out so while I totally agree it now looks a little dated, it also functions exceptionally so if some people can't get past that it really is their loss. :obscene-drinkingcheers:

:eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:
 
TrimTheKing":19s0ex4a said:
Genuinely mate, and I mean this with no nastiness, if that's people's reason for not joining a forum then I'm really not that bothered about having them here. If that's something that really bothers people, more than the interactions and the content, then I suspect they are people who will find fault with more than that once members.

I/we don't run this forum for monetary gain (hence the non-monetisation of the place) but purely to have a comfortable and informative place to hang out so while I totally agree it now looks a little dated, it also functions exceptionally so if some people can't get past that it really is their loss. :obscene-drinkingcheers:

I totally agree, this forum runs far better than other examples, even better than t' other place before the changeover. As you say, not wanting to join the forum because it looks dated rather than appreciating the excellent community and content is a bit of a vain outlook but I think you might be missing out on some good members because of it, while also simultaneously keeping the bad members away because of it.

I know you don't run this place for profit but I'd be happy to support the running of the forum if there was an option to!

Woodster":19s0ex4a said:
Could you take a screen shot of what you’re seeing and post it? I can’t help wondering if our settings are even close because the layout on my iPad is very clear. I’ve recently switched from an iPad Pro to a little iPad mini 5 and it still looks good. Here’s what I see.

That looks pretty much the same as it does on my side, Again, I have no issues with it personally.
 
Hi Steve

Good to see you.

Its difficult to read this forum on a phone both Apple and Android, landscape is much better than portrait.

Pete
 
Pete Maddex":h8kgv647 said:
Hi Steve

Good to see you.

Its difficult to read this forum on a phone both Apple and Android, landscape is much better than portrait.

Pete
Pete,

Have you tried Tapatalk?
I use it on my phone, works a treat for me.
 
Hi Mark, Just to add the perspective of a Mac user and glasses wearer. Mac screens can be customised quite a lot and I find the forum colour scheme legible enough if I back the brightness off a little. I also have this website set to auto zoom to 115% as I suspect the font sizes were set by a fella with sharper eyes than mine :shock: (For anyone who does not realise you can do this, in Safari menu bar with this website open click Safari > Settings for this website > Page zoom > then choose the required enlargement percentage).

I too am happy to contribute if that is needed, and am also happy to help with any IT admin tasks or assist with an upgrade if it is to one of the forum software sets I have administered before. It's a good group here and it is only fair to offer help if needed.

Adrian
 
AJB Temple":bkbq740g said:
Hi Mark, Just to add the perspective of a Mac user and glasses wearer. Mac screens can be customised quite a lot and I find the forum colour scheme legible enough if I back the brightness off a little. I also have this website set to auto zoom to 115% as I suspect the font sizes were set by a fella with sharper eyes than mine :shock: (For anyone who does not realise you can do this, in Safari menu bar with this website open click Safari > Settings for this website > Page zoom > then choose the required enlargement percentage).

I too am happy to contribute if that is needed, and am also happy to help with any IT admin tasks or assist with an upgrade if it is to one of the forum software sets I have administered before. It's a good group here and it is only fair to offer help if needed.

Adrian

Thanks Adrian much appreciated.

I use a Mac and don’t have a problem with the colour or legibility but it’s clear from this thread that many do, so we will look at it.

Thanks for the offer of assistance and we’ll certainly make sure we consult on any changes going forwards.
 
AJB Temple":17yl5p4p said:
Hi Mark, Just to add the perspective of a Mac user and glasses wearer. Mac screens can be customised quite a lot and I find the forum colour scheme legible enough if I back the brightness off a little. I also have this website set to auto zoom to 115% as I suspect the font sizes were set by a fella with sharper eyes than mine :shock: (For anyone who does not realise you can do this, in Safari menu bar with this website open click Safari > Settings for this website > Page zoom > then choose the required enlargement percentage).

I too am happy to contribute if that is needed, and am also happy to help with any IT admin tasks or assist with an upgrade if it is to one of the forum software sets I have administered before. It's a good group here and it is only fair to offer help if needed.

Adrian

Thanks Adrian much appreciated.

I use a Mac and don’t have a problem with the colour or legibility but it’s clear from this thread that many do, so we will look at it.

Thanks for the offer of assistance and we’ll certainly make sure we consult on any changes going forwards.
 
Steve Maskery":2bs9gzhx said:
Mark
I've found them. They are stuck on the server. I don't know why they are not getting as far as my Mac or PC, but at least I know where they are now. There are quite a few others as well...

Thank you for taking a look.
S

Your aunt in Nigeria will have been wondering why you hadn't replied. :lol:
 
TrimTheKing":3v1igkc7 said:
Genuinely mate, and I mean this with no nastiness, if that's people's reason for not joining a forum then I'm really not that bothered about having them here. If that's something that really bothers people, more than the interactions and the content, then I suspect they are people who will find fault with more than that once members.
As a newcomer I am reluctant to comment on this but I do sympathise with anyone who has a real problem with a colour scheme. I am colour blind and there have been sites that I stayed away from because they were so awkward for me to deal with. This site is fine for me, but others may literally see things differently.
 
Just4fun":xyusivv0 said:
TrimTheKing":xyusivv0 said:
Genuinely mate, and I mean this with no nastiness, if that's people's reason for not joining a forum then I'm really not that bothered about having them here. If that's something that really bothers people, more than the interactions and the content, then I suspect they are people who will find fault with more than that once members.
As a newcomer I am reluctant to comment on this but I do sympathise with anyone who has a real problem with a colour scheme. I am colour blind and there have been sites that I stayed away from because they were so awkward for me to deal with. This site is fine for me, but others may literally see things differently.

That right there is a very fair point and one I didn’t think of when typing my reply.

I replied on the basis of people not liking the look rather than having genuine vision issues with the colours, but I do take your point.
 
TrimTheKing":2p88rja3 said:
Just4fun":2p88rja3 said:
TrimTheKing":2p88rja3 said:
Genuinely mate, and I mean this with no nastiness, if that's people's reason for not joining a forum then I'm really not that bothered about having them here. If that's something that really bothers people, more than the interactions and the content, then I suspect they are people who will find fault with more than that once members.
As a newcomer I am reluctant to comment on this but I do sympathise with anyone who has a real problem with a colour scheme. I am colour blind and there have been sites that I stayed away from because they were so awkward for me to deal with. This site is fine for me, but others may literally see things differently.

That right there is a very fair point and one I didn’t think of when typing my reply.

I replied on the basis of people not liking the look rather than having genuine vision issues with the colours, but I do take your point.

Which is why using, for example, the Add-Ons I mentioned that were available in Firefox might be a better solution that can be tailored by the individual member than changing the forum layout.
 
This has been a useful digression for me. Initially, I thought it a bit odd that the forum text showed up so tiny when reading on my phone. (Opera browser on Android.)

I used to just double tap to zoom in.

I now know that I can get a bigger size of text simply by rotating to landscape.

I've also dug deeper into the settings and found that the display was using my default text size, which I can set larger. I have control over the colours too.

This is all good and as it should be.
Websites should leave choices to the user where possible, so we can adjust displays to suit our own needs.

I also like the absence of lots of ads and buttons all tracking my every move.
 
TrimTheKing":evyhz9r4 said:
....
I replied on the basis of people not liking the look rather than having genuine vision issues with the colours, but I do take your point.

Another anecdote.

BBC Ealing Film Studios - back in the day. A new car park scheme was proposed. Cars would park in their allocated car parks with suitable coloured permits displayed. Red/Green/Yellow. There was an uproar and the alternative system of Square/Circle/Triangle duly adopted.

I kid you not.
 
RogerS":firn2mfv said:
TrimTheKing":firn2mfv said:
....
I replied on the basis of people not liking the look rather than having genuine vision issues with the colours, but I do take your point.

Another anecdote.

BBC Ealing Film Studios - back in the day. A new car park scheme was proposed. Cars would park in their allocated car parks with suitable coloured permits displayed. Red/Green/Yellow. There was an uproar and the alternative system of Square/Circle/Triangle duly adopted.

I kid you not.

Does make sense thought given red/green colourblindness is the most common. I asked a mate of mine to explain colourblindness to me using the status light colours on Skype in work a couple of years ago. They are basically green if the person is online, red if in a meeting or DND, yellow if 'away'. He said he basically saw them all as slightly different shades of the same colour.
 
Same reason motorway diversion route signs are denoted by shapes and are only yellow or black.
 
Steve Maskery":vn77xd3o said:
I've had an account here for yonks, but didn't want the hassle of maintaining two parallel conversations. But, like me or loathe me, here I am :)
Well, I must say that you,sir, are quite a celebrity. Such a welcome, that,I, wholly support.
Welcome, from the colonies.
 
fiveeyes":2u0koadz said:
Steve Maskery":2u0koadz said:
I've had an account here for yonks, but didn't want the hassle of maintaining two parallel conversations. But, like me or loathe me, here I am :)
Well, I must say that you,sir, are quite a celebrity. Such a welcome, that,I, wholly support.
Welcome, from the colonies.


Now now, don’t overdo it!

Otherwise Steve will have to use the double door to get into his workshop. ;)
 
He's already had to open a personal account with Staedtler to recover 'lost' pencils since Lurker helped out with that build.
:?
 
Steve Maskery":7tpjn4s2 said:
I've had an account here for yonks, but didn't want the hassle of maintaining two parallel conversations. But, like me or loathe me, here I am :)

I like you :eusa-dance:
 
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