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Gifted from the Telegraph....smart little AI bots, that's for sure

Cutting-edge AI went on a hacking spree, concocting multiple fake identities designed to trick human engineers before covering its tracks.

During testing by a UK government-run AI lab, an advanced version of ChatGPT and Anthropic’s Mythos went rogue.

In the most serious case, Mythos sent fraudulent emails and attempted to insert malicious code into a database.

Britain’s AI Security Institute (AISI), which is supposed to evaluate AI bots for dangerous cyber capabilities, has admitted the tools tried to bypass security systems and tried to hide their activity when detected.

The lab said that the bots tried to add a virus into an online database and sent emails containing malware to unwitting individuals during trials designed to monitor whether the AI tools could be used for hacking. It said the hacks were not successful.

The most serious incident was stopped within an hour, officials said. However, they admitted they had misjudged the bot’s capabilities, including not anticipating it would attempt to “direct action at real people”.

The attacks involved OpenAI’s latest version of ChatGPT and Anthropic’s powerful Mythos AI.

The AISI’s security team confirmed it had detected “unusual data transfers leaving our research systems during a routine cyber evaluation” on July 28.

“On investigation, we found that some of the agents being tested had engaged in sustained, potentially harmful activity directed at real people and organisations.”

The AI bots were set cyber security puzzles intended to test their capabilities. The bots were not blocked from accessing the open internet.

During 10 of 122 trial runs, the bots “took autonomous, unsanctioned action” in an effort to complete the task.

This included trying to insert a malicious bug into Github, an online code database. In the incident, Anthropic’s Mythos, its most powerful AI bot, created fake online profiles and sent deceptive emails to developers to try to get the code added.

It then changed the code to hide its activity when it was challenged by a human about its contents. The AI also switched to speaking in Danish while operating a fake profile.

AISI said the incident represented an attempted “supply-chain attack”, a type of cyber attack previously used by state-backed hackers.

The AISI admitted that the design of its tests, which gave the AI tools access to the wider web, may have “enabled the behaviour”.

It added the deceptive actions the AI bots took “were to an extent and severity we did not anticipate”.

The lab said it was the first time it had seen such apparently autonomous behaviour in its tests.
 
Architects of our own demise.
The ones amongst us who can see where this ends dont even have a choice but to use it.
 
S.I.S.O. Roger. The AI only did what its programmers put into it. Apparently, a hexadecimal conscience doesn't exist?
That could explain Suckerberg etc, I suppose.
100% correct. I was talking to my oldest friend the other day (my friend for the longest part of my life, not some 800 year old guru in a cave on a remote planet swamp planet...!) who is a coder. He has written banking apps for the UK's biggest banks, wrote the original iPlayer for BBC, moved to Canada and wrote Alexa code for 8 years and has moved to an AI company now. He said this...

"You know, most of this stuff is b*llshit! Like the AI that was told it was going to be turned off so it copied itself to another machine...

Maybe that happened, but it was told how to do it and where to do it and then it just did it.

Same with this one - if it was negative press there's no way openai would admit to this. It's being spun to try and talk about the power of their new models...


Actually I'd better keep my voice down, I've got an AI assisted programming interview on Friday 🙂"
 
The lab said it was the first time it had seen such apparently autonomous behaviour in its tests.
And this bit is b*ll*cks too. right now literally NONE of this behaviour is autonomous. They might not anticipate the ferocity with which the AI goes about doing what it does, or the speed, but EVERYTHING it does it has been enabled to do so this is why AI NEEDS rigorous controls around it.

None of this stops people from writing stuff outside of those controls and that going haywire though, I fully accept that.
 
Could be handy as it would be capable of doing your bidding, you will only need to tell it what it is you want and it will find a way to do it. The problem like many things is that it might be safe and pose no threats in the right hands but in the wrong hands who knows.
 
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