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Japanese Acers

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Without doubt, my favourite tree, but as Rog S is tearing his hair out :lol: a new thread as requested, but when to prune them? Opinions differ, but this from the RHS:

Acers are very prone to bleeding from pruning cuts so it's best to do this before the end of January while they are totally dormant. In the second winter prune out any dead or damaged shoots and shorten the main shoots back a little. In the third winter remove any very low branches to display the bark on the trunk.

...and again:

RHS advice on pruning Japanese acers: Acer palmatum is best pruned when fully dormant (November to early February), as maples bleed sap from pruning cuts at other times, weakening the tree.

...and this is what I do for heavy structural pruning where the form of branches can be easily seen, but:

Can I prune an Acer in April?
To do this, you can carefully prune out growing tips in April to keep them compact. Later in June, gently remove the lengths of new growth that look excessive or untidy using a sharp pair of secateurs. Doing this will get the acer in shape ready for summer, looking pleasing and with plenty of new growth to be enjoyed.


This one near the pond:

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...is now in full leaf and I'll trim out the growing tips to a single pair of leaves later on this month; I may even have a little snip at it more than once and I've been doing this to it for twenty years. It was quite heavily pruned for structural shape in Nov but because of the leaf canopy, it's impossible to do it now. This is one at the bottom of the garden:

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...that was very heavily pruned in Nov; you can see half way up there was a major branch that was crossing and rubbing which was removed and the wound sealed with some green jollop from the local gc. There still a little more to do this coming autumn but the shape is now quite pleasing, whereas before it was a bit of a dogs dinner. Again, it will be lightly pruned as we go through the summer, but nothing drastic. One or two members of the JGS lightly shape their acers all through the summer but nothing too severe; the big loppers come out to play in Nov.

Many years ago, when I used to keep a lot of acer bonsai, a national 'expert' who gave our club a talk one evening said that you can be absolutely ruthless when pruning them and it seems you can with the full size tree, provided it's done at the appropriate time- Rob
 
This is my woolies acer

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My clematis could do with a trim also, I think its about 35 years old

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This is the best time of year in my garden, the smell is unreal. Theirs cherry blossom, clematis, lilac, apple blossom. It was raining yesterday so its even more fragrant.

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As our garden refurb continues we’ve been looking at more acers :shock: we popped along to an acer specialist in Derbyshire these are 2 of his polly tunnels filled with absolute beauties

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We ended up with a Sanyo Kaku & Phoenix though I’ve a feeling they won’t be the last :o
 
As our Japanese garden has a public opening next weekend for charity, I have been doing active pruning and layering this weekend. Cuts shaped to achieve water run off and wound paste applied to big cuts. Everything is in full leaf (except for mature 30m beech) but only for the past 2 weeks. Super soft.

Our acers are so incredibly vigorous that pruning pretty much through the summer is essential, but if I wanted to take out big branches (saw or loppers size) I would try to do this during the dormant season.

I should say we are a) on very fertile clay based soil, and b) we feed the entire Japanese garden and cloud garden with liquid fish feed every week from the pond filter flushes. Plus we are rural and sheltered.

Have also re=potted and reshaped about 30 youngish bonsai in the past week. Early May is a tad late for that, but roots are well established and I use a good soil mix and I am used to doing it. Not much root pruning though.

Same for prunus, taxus and a few betula etc. I doubt we will lose any but one never knows. Also potted on a dozen peonies today, acquired bare root this last winter (so root growth is not huge). Also a couple of dozen larch, dawn redwoods, scots pine and a handful of oaks and chestnuts. We shall see what happens. Dug up a handful of young oak etc to bring on.

I lost about 15 pot plants last winter, 11 of which were Dawn Redwoods, 1 very juvenile acer, 1 very nice Holly bonsai, 1 taxus (out of about 40) and something else. The Dawn Redwoods were a forest planting in one large shallow tray and I screwed up the drainage after a pot change. Super annoying as they are hard to kill usually. :|

We are much more circumspect with our cherries (all Niwaki). Much higher infection risk than Acers.

NB I am no expert and am willing to take a risk with trees we have planted as babies as our investment is peanuts (though the trees would be very expensive to replace as specimens now). Fully realise that what we do may go against RHS advice. Many Bonsai and Niwaki growers also go against RHS advice but typically are very green fingered. 8-)
 
Love this time of year when the acers are coming into leaf

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I don’t know if it’s the frost free spring we’ve had so far but our acers are covered in flowers

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We usually get a few seedlings & this year is no different

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& whilst I know they don’t come true from seed they do make lovely trees, I can’t imagine how many seedlings well have next year with the abundance of flowers we’ve got this spring.
 
Well... 😎... it's great to see a thread on Japanese Maples.... and the mentioning of Bonsai and Niwaki - not that I've got the room for Niwaki in the garden itself but (not correct Niwaki I know) *sort of* in containers.

I've just received two "Anne-Irene" Japanese Maple, 3lt container grown. I've one from a previous purchase some time ago but it's struggling - looked dead. I ground planted it spring 2025 to try to bolster it along but... My wife is named Anne, my mother was Irene.

I also ground planted some other trees to try to get stronger growth for Bonsai purposes. Two Deshojo, three Ginko biloba (for a group), a fusion of 7 Zelkova serrata + a single, triple Taxux baccata, some other Japanese maples... two Scots pine to attempt a fusion...

As the thread is on Japanese maples and pruning I 'would have' mentioned looking towards methods used in Bonsai - but I see some already have knowledge of Bonsai so not sure if I can add to that. If I did it would be the suggestion to look at information on pinching back the first buds (at the tip of the 'branch') to encourage 'ramification'.

If this thread wonders off slightly towards Bonsai I may post up some photos of my collection along with my attempted cuttings and seed grown. My Japanese maple forest group from airlayers, Hawthorn group, Zelkova serrata (from seed) forest group, Field maple, Japanese Hawthorn... Paul's Scarlet Hawthorn + cuttings.... Sorry, getting carried away there 😊
 
Ours ( red) keeps getting beige patches on the leaves
Used to be fine for years- what's happened?
 
Ours ( red) keeps getting beige patches on the leaves
Used to be fine for years- what's happened?
Photos may help for identification Martin.

Possibly this - although speaking of Japanese maples in America
 
We have a Japanese style garden and about 35 acers in the ground, plus a number in pots as bonsai. For the garden acers I prune them to the shape I require (flat, cloud, domed, layered ...whatever) and I use big Stihl petrol hedge trimmers mainly. This is also how they do it at Hever Castle (where my wife did her RHS training) as well. I do it at any time when they look untidy. It is totally fine on the soft growth. For branch work I use secateurs and a saw. I sterilise these in a bucket of diluted bleach between trees.

If you go to the serious bonsai guys like Peter Chan at Herons (he did the Bonsai avenue at Wisley) he is pretty brutal (and fast) with pruning and shaping. I don't think you need to baby acers too much.

Brown spots could be wind burn. Possibly nutrient deficiency. Inconsistent water supply. I have a couple of fairly mature acers that are prone to wind burn, but they all get fed like mad from the koi pond filters, so they do well.
 
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Sounds a very exciting and interesting place @AJB Temple - and you've got your hands full in caring for it 🙏
Not really. My wife is head digger. I just do the serious pruning, hedge cutting and sit on the mower. I know my place :cool:

Until last year we opened the garden to the public a few times a year for charity. But it wore us out (entitled people!) and we've stopped this year. Now it's just us and a few restaurant guests. :)
 
If this thread wonders off slightly towards Bonsai I may post up some photos of my collection along with my attempted cuttings and seed grown. My Japanese maple forest group from airlayers, Hawthorn group, Zelkova serrata (from seed) forest group, Field maple, Japanese Hawthorn... Paul's Scarlet Hawthorn + cuttings.... Sorry, getting carried away there 😊
Wander away Frank I’d really like to see photos of your bonsai (y)
 
Wander away Frank I’d really like to see photos of your bonsai (y)
🙏 thanks Doug. I'll pop this photo here but will probably start a new thread rather than take @AJB Temple 's post down a different route than he intended 🙏🙂
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This was a repot of the Japanese maple forest group I put together in 2023 from airlayers taken from six other JMs I'd had for about 30 years. Initially I bought them as a 'Mame' forest group (small 'sapling' sizes) which I put into garden containers for a few years... The other trees in the photo on the same bench are of Dawn Redwood, Ginko biloba (cuttings), Itiogowa Juniper and English elm.

The other two photos are of Hawthorn I purchased in 2024 at a Bonsai sale locally. I'll post the photos of it when I acquired it when I do the other posts in a new thread 🙂
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This year it's full of blossom buds almost ready to break open.
 
It's not my thread. Take it down any route you like as far as I am concerned.

That's a nice group planting. Takes time to get to that. I struggle a bit with dawn redwood bonsai. Some do well, some die off.
 
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