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Keeping out water?

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Neighbour has just had these gates installed so I went for a nose.
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The verticals go into a mortise..not sure if it goes through or not.

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I got to thinking if there was a better way to do it as I could see water tracking down very easily. Certainly if it wasn’t a through mortise then that would compound the problem
 
I have a thing about gate design ever since I was presented with this mess

Bottom of the stile, hinge side:-
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Top of the stile hinge side,
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Middle rail:-
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My solution with to fix the rails on top and below the stiles thereby reducing end grain exposure
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And pining the vertical cladding so if one piece did rot it could be replaced easiliy.
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The horizontal faces of the mid rail were all chamfered to shed water.

That was 13 years ago and there is no sign of rot. Chestnut was used throughout.

Not the typical design but I am damn sure it will last longer than the original.
 
Overall it does not look like a substantial gate, but that might be just the photo. Also would you supply anything with the pencil marks still present ? The better way would be to have a shoulder tennon like @AndyP has said, that way no water soaking into the rail and his gates look far more solid and durable.
 
Eric the Viking said:
Looking at Roger's pic, it seems like the top and bottom rails are pegged (drawbored possibly), but not the middle one. Also there's no sign of any diagonal bracing, although there may be one on t'other side, out of view.

If 'none', I'd expect it to sag fairly quickly.
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I'll have a closer look and report back. I didn't see any pegs TBH.

These are single bolts going through to the hinges.20260515_093217.jpg
 
There are three pegs used for the top rail which is an assembly which you might expect. Photos not brilliant but you can just about make out the wedge lines of the component pieces. Reliant on glue for the most part.
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They are NOT through tenons and so any water running down those verticals will fill the holes. Caveat...they could argue that they filled the holes first with Gorilla Clue (their first choice for glue) although I can see no evidence of squeeze out.

There is a brace the other side. Two gates...approx 6ft high x 9ft wide. Rebates on the middle and bottom rails into which the T&G (?) is glued and nailed

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The stable doors I had made many years ago had a rebate on the bottom rail of each half door with a slope on it to the outside with a corresponding slope on the bottom of the T&G so that water ran off the slope. It didn't stop the T&G rotting from the inside of the top doors which were usually left open and there wasn't much of an overhang on the roof to stop the rain.
 
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