Kity 636 table adjustment

[BaronBiscuit]

I’m trying (and failing miserably) to eliminate problems with my aged Kity 636 planer/thicknesser. I’m trying to get the infeed/outfeed tables to be planar to each other, they’re current out of wind. I’ve tried loosening the three bolts on each side of the outfeed table, but one is obscured by the drive mechanism cogs. I can’t get it to shift.
Of course, I’ve a heap of Ash that needs to be dimensioned ASAP. Could anyone offer advice?

Thanks in advance

 

[9fingers]

@Steve Maskery
Im pretty certain that Steve runs one of these machines and has made at least one video on alignment but not sure if he covered this aspect. He is a helpful guy and worth contacting if he does not respond in this thread.
Bob

 

[BaronBiscuit]

Thank you for your swift reply, Bob!
Coincidentally, I watched Steve’s video on YouTube last night and he made it all looks so simple! Sadly, I haven’t been able to replicate any success thus far.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Table alignment is not something that Kity gave very much thought to, I'm afraid. It really is a case of slackening off the side bolts and

 

[BaronBiscuit]

Thanks Steve, I’m realising this is going to take some time to sort.
My current problem is the infeed table is skewed, relative to the cutter head. If I tighten the green screws (pictured) the table skews. The side bolts offer vertical adjustments, but nothing lateral. I can’t get it straight!

 

[Mike]

The outfeed table on my not so dearly departed Holzmann HOB260NL P/T was also skewed with respect to the cutter block. This didn't seem to affect the performance of the machine once the height of the outfeed table was parallel to the cutter block and the knives were adjusted to the same height as the outfeed table.

I can only assume that by some stroke of fate, the Chinese company that copied the Holzmann design from somewhere else inadvertently introduced the skewed setup and never bothered to remove it. Since the cutter block was the only moving part of the P/T that could not be adjusted, it became the datum for all other adjustments.

 

[Pete Maddex]

Sounds like you need some shims under the green bolts or the holes enlarging, it must be pulling it sideways as you tighten.
Or the other side out, I would slacken everything off and slowly re tighten to see what affects what, I did a similar thing om my Bestcombi, but I had to take the planer out, that was a nightmare.


Pete

 

[meccarroll]

Rather than try to correct something that is not working is it worth thinking about selling it on and buying a more robust machine like a Sedgwick? You are only talkng about 3 or four hundread more at the most and you could forget about the problems ahead. If you can aford it why not have years of pleasure rather then years of problems.

 

[Pete Maddex]

Rather than try to correct something that is not working is it worth thinking about selling it on and buying a more robust machine like a Sedgwick? You are only talkng about 3 or four hundread more at the most and you could forget about the problems ahead. If you can aford it why not have years of pleasure rather then years of problems.

Mmmm not sure about this, are you sugesting selling it pointing out the fault? which would make it virtualy worthless, or not mentioning the fault.

Pete

 

[Steve Maskery]

I don't think it is necesary to sell it, it's a good little machine once it is fettled.

I have just remembered something. There was a time when my tables were a tad in wind. My friend Brian and I fettled it by carefully filing at the point where the V-shaped casting makes contact with the round bar. It wasn't difficult and it cured the problem. That must be twenty years ago, I'd forgotten. And I miss Brian

 

[meccarroll]

Sounds like you need some shims under the green bolts or the holes enlarging, it must be pulling it sideways as you tighten.
Or the other side out, I would slacken everything off and slowly re tighten to see what affects what, I did a similar thing om my Bestcombi, but I had to take the planer out, that was a nightmare.


Pete

I think the shims might work but then I would also be thinking why has this happened in the first place?

Mmmm not sure about this, are you sugesting selling it pointing out the fault? which would make it virtualy worthless, or not mentioning the fault.

Pete

My suggestion was to upgrade to a Sedgwick P/T as they are more robust than Kity P/T's.

Personally I would not entertain the thought of selling a faulty machine. I always point out everything I know about a piece of equipment if I sell it to upgrade... better to be honest that way there is little chance of any problems.

I did own a cast alloy Dewalt 10" P/T many years ago which I had to adjust because I was after perfection, it was an easy fix as it had good adjustment points on it. I used the Dewalt P/T for about 8 years but always wanted a larger P/T and eventually purchased a Cast Iron P/T which is like being in a different league altogether... It's just so nice having a robust P/T to work with.

 

[Mike]

My current problem is the infeed table is skewed, relative to the cutter head. If I tighten the green screws (pictured) the table skews. The side bolts offer vertical adjustments, but nothing lateral. I can’t get it straight!

Here is a photo of my former HOB260NL with the knives removed. The cutter block is skewed relative to the outfeed table in a similar manner as yours. There was no way to adjust it, so I didn't bother with it. As I wrote earlier, the skewed knives didn't adversely affect the performance of the cut.



The HOB260NL had so many other problems with it that I decided to replace it with the SCM FS 30G. When I sold the HOB260NL, I was clear in the listing that it was a high maintenance machine and likely better suited for the bottom of the ocean. However, it sold about ten minutes after I listed it for my asking price of €500. The guy who bought it collected it the same day and was happy to have it for his garage shop. I let him run some beech and oak boards through the planer and thicknesser before he gave me the cash and hauled it away.