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Anyone watching this on BBC Scotland / iplayer ?

Odd to have green woodworking judged by someone who says they have never seen a shavehorse before. With competitors who seem not to be green woodworkers. And to praise tight fitting dovetails in green wood, with fhe grain orientation such that it will fall apart when dry. Shows complete lack of understanding of the nature of the material. Mind you, perhaps in Scotland it will never dry out :lol:

Some nice pyrography though, I thought.
 
I've not seen it, but it sounds as though I would have switched off after 5 minutes anyway. I reckon the only way we'll ever get decent woodworking on TV is if we invite the cameras in ourselves.
 
Ok, I'll download it and watch it, but from what you have said already I think it might make me a bit grumpy too!
I guess anyone working in TV production won't be a specialist in all the subject areas they get to deal with, but if they can't even find "experts" who know what they are doing, the prospects are poor. And then, when rubbishy programmes get made, they put off the well-informed people from taking part, as they don't want to be associated with superficial dross.
 
Ok, having nothing better to do at this moment, I've watched it. Tony, I think you are being very polite in your comments so I'll try to do the same.

As with so many similar "challenge" programmes, it's about the people and the story of two days in the woods building something. Despite a nod at setting power tools against hand tools, the shots of actual tool use were brief, "arty" (slo-mo, zooming) and devoid of context or comment. (Nobody bothered to explain why a belt sander wasn't very good on freshly felled spruce, or introduce joints more suitable for the materials.)

It did show that gathering in the woods for a practical team project can be rewarding for the participants, who all seemed to be good humoured people getting on well together.
 
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