• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

Mike's greenhouse and potting shed (finished)

I did. I don't claim it to be better, but it's good. CT1 seems to be a favourite with builders, but they upset my local builders merchant, and the Hippos equivalent works really well for me.
 
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. It's certainly earned me a few brownie points.
 
That is very smart Mike! :eusa-clap:

Looks like a nice place to settle down in a comfortable chair, bottle of dry white and some ice in a bucket.
You could look busy all day.



Mike G":b4m4rk4i said:
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. It's certainly earned me a few brownie points.
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Only a few? We need to have a serious talk to your "daughter"!
 
Phil":3v2cjbh2 said:
......Looks like a nice place to settle down in a comfortable chair, bottle of dry white and some ice in a bucket........
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Nice idea, Phil. But it's a working space, and will soon be full of plants. There'll be a conservatory on the back of the house in the next year or two, hopefully, and that will be where we might sit down with a glass of something or other one of these days.
 
Straight runs around the outside, certainly. What happens within that isn't important. It's very controllable, which helps, and squeeze out not only wipes off with a finger, but is paintable, so you don't have to fret over that the way you do over squeeze-out on a piece of furniture.
 
I added some diagonal bracing, from 16mm diameter steel rod. Getting the feet at exactly the right angle was a bit of a job:

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It's at just under 2m height, so I think you'd need to stand on tip toes to bump your head.
 
Mike,
If your tie rod is at 2m above ground level, that suggests that the door is shorter than noraml and would present a hazard to Mark and other of normal stature. As you had virtually a blank canvas is there a reason why the green house does not use a standard door height?

Bob
 
Yep, to keep the ridge height below 4m for permitted development, whilst still having enough of a slope on the rooves such that the tiles on the potting shed worked. The rooves are at 35 degrees, the minimum for plain tiles. It was all very tight.
 
I subtracted 8mm from the frame opening size to give me the outside dimensions of the casements. That was 4mm all round, obviously. However, with a thick build-up of paint and a minor variation here and there, I had to get the plane out a couple of times.
 
Thanks Rod. We've planted a Lakemont Seedless vine.
 
Mike G":150ezhpf said:
I added some diagonal bracing, from 16mm diameter steel rod.
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Is this always part of the design, out of an abundance of caution, or an unexpected requirement ? (Sorry if I've missed this somewhere). It looks pretty sturdy without from where I am sitting ?
 
It was always planned, although at one stage I was going to plant some timber on the underside of the rafters to do the same job. I offered both options to the design committee, and this was the preference that emerged, in particular because having stuff overhead you can tie things to in a greenhouse is apparently important.

As for "looks sturdy". Well, yes, it is, but try this experiment. Go and hold a sheet of ply vertically in a stiff wind. Now, imagine those forces acting on the end of the greenhouse for month after month, year after year. In 10 years time it wouldn't be hard to imagine quite some wobble in the corner joints.
 
Mike G":1pogtx4v said:
As for "looks sturdy". Well, yes, it is, but try this experiment. Go and hold a sheet of ply vertically in a stiff wind.
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Who needs to do this experiment ? It is well known that a stiff wind is always invoked when you begin to manhandle sheet goods outdoors :lol: I thought it was not likely to be a miscalculation.

My dad has a fairly large cedar greenhouse. When it was new he and my mother spend a windy evening serving as ballast to stop it blowing away, after which it got an angle iron frame added in the middle, and a circuit of 3" heating pipes which were arranged to weight it down rather. It's still there after 50 or 60 years, so it did the job !
 
Hi Mike, I'm about to construct the roof on mine and am pretty much following your design so have a couple of questions about your rooflights as I've never made them.
1. I see the upstands fit into the rafter rebates but do they sit on the foam or did you just glue/screw them in?
2. How do the rooflights fit, do they sit directly on the upstand or are the upstands rebated to hold the rooflights i.e. mirroring the rafters/mullions?
3. How is rain prevented from getting in? (This will probably be covered by answers to the above)

thanks

Mike
 
Hi Mike.

1/ The rooflight upstands, you mean? If so, they go directly into the rebates, glued and sealed with the Hippo 3 stuff.

2/ The rooflights sit outside the upstands, enclosing them.

3/ See 2.

Just a word on the design of the rooflights. There isn't room for them to be side-by-side, so you've either got to space them out, or do doubles. If you do double ones, like mine, then you need more powerful openers as they are too heavy for ordinary ones.
 
Excellent thanks.
The two rooflights will be doubles separated by two rafter spans and with mullions like yours. I'm permanently fixing the sides today then I've got a couple of days of routing ahead of me again.

I'm itching to get started on the workshop although...
 
Hi Mike
I've been testing the rubber glazing seal I planned to use but there's not much give it it and I'm concerned that any shrinkage in the frame following hot weather may cause leaks. Are you still happy with your choice following weeks of rain? What thickness did you compress it down to?

thanks

Mike
 
Yep, it's brilliant stuff. Mine works from 2mm to 10mm, from memory, but there are plenty of alternatives giving different ranges.
 
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