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Operation re-render

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And off to pastures new
Hey ho...and off we go. The whole point of getting the staging board and extra tower in the first place. I hired another staging board from Bradfords and between the two of us we built the Tower of Babylon in a couple of hours. Not without a lot of cussing, I might add, as at our first attempt we got the levels wrong. But it's all very stable which I'm pleased about as it means that John can crack on without worrying about bouncing up and down on his normal 13 ft scaffold boards.





The hessian over the top of the shrubs is to protect them. We managed to get a sheet of hardboard behind each bush in turn, rope behind and then pulled forward to get the bush off the wall so John could do his prep work. The main stems on those bushes are about 3" in diameter and each bush did not want to move much. Trick was to pull it forward as much as possible, tie off. Come back in ten minutes and repeat. Gradually they were persuaded to play nicely. Mind you, if I had my way I would have taken a chain saw to them.

And some of the prep work. Cracks opened up. Key hacked into the existing render.

 
Scratch coat applied at first floor level.





The sash openers will be removed one-by-one over the winter period, taken to the workshop and refurbished.
 
Much as I think the shrubs look attractive up against the house, from the pictures I just can't see how you can render behind them. Maybe they are pulled further from the wall than it looks.

How far can the temperature drop before putting the render has too stop?

Terry.
 
The house opposite us has just been re rendered. They used a pre coloured render that was applied by a pumped system that squirted (i can't say sprayed) it onto the wall. They then trowelled it level(ish). next day they went over it with scratch floats and made it flat and level. It looks pretty good.

What was interesting was that the first coat (not coloured) had plastic mesh pushed into it with the trowel so the entire surface is mesh re-enforced.

Hope the weather lets you finish yours as planned.
 
Terry ....With difficulty, is the answer. Slipping a sheet of hardboard with reinforced edges behind the bush and a bit of rope 'captures' the shrub. Then another bit of rope connected to an anchor point in the garden lets us ease the shrub away from the wall. The trick is not to try and do it all in one go as the shrub eases up after the first pull on the rope. If you wait ten minutes the tension has gone and you can persuade it to come a bit further away from the wall. Repeat a couple more times and you have about 15" at the top and 10" lower down. It's OK to do a sponge finish, admittedly, but being behind the bush, you'll never notice.

I think it's about 10 degrees minimum requirement.

Robert....we have belt and braces...nylon fibres and plastic mesh.

My next decision is how long to wait before painting. If you look at the paint website they talk about 3 months but I think that this figure is based on a new wall, new bricks, new mortar, new render...in other words a huge lump if damp material. Here we have a 10mm scratch coat and then a thin finish coat and so I reckon that a couple of weeks should do.
 
Oh Hell's Bells. I was up on the scaffolding today wiping off the finished surface free from cement 'dust' when I noticed that one patch sounded 'live'. Then I found another patch. And another. Just gone over 2/3 of the top part and there are a lot of areas where the finish coat has blown. I have a nasty feeling that when yesterdays' work dries out that I will find more there.






These are just some of them. He did have trouble with part of the wall as the sand was in some respects too fine and he knew it was pulling off. The next day he brought some sharp sand with him and that part rendered reasonably well.

So dilemma. Leave it and hope that water doesn't get behind and make it fall away completely? OR get him to hack out the blown bits and redo the area. The trouble with that is that in my experience you always end up seeing the patches afterwards. Which defeats the whole object of the exercise.

Seriously very very unhappy bunny.

Any advice ?
 
Horrible Roger, feel for you on that one.

No expert, all I can recount is that our house is rendered and we had an area where water did get behind the render which pre-dated our purchase of the house and it did indeed start falling away. It has been stripped and re-rendered, but not painted yet as I was allow as much time as possible to dry so can't comment on patchwork effect.

My gut feel is that it should probably come off. Surely, if the guy could tell it was coming away he should have just stopped using sand that was too fine? Have you quizzed him on this yet to see what the advice is?

Terry.
 
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