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Hi all

I am in the process of building a small shed next to the workshop to take all the gardening stuff, patio seat cushions etc that I don’t want clogging up the workshop and hindering progress in there (as they are right now).

I’ve laid a 6x6ft slab and laid out bricks up to 3 courses to do a Mike style brick plinth based wooden shed, then a couple of small footings for brick piers to form the sides of a log store.

My thought was to give the shed an apex slate roof at the same angles and orientation as the main workshop roof, with the door as per the gap in the bricks. Then build a couple of brick piers up to about 20 courses with a pent slate roof tying into the side wall of the shed.

I was moving all the bricks today and with nothing more to think about, various things crossed my mind.

Do I need double brick thickness piers?

Is there a brick bond that has gaps in it that would allow airflow?

Could I get away with single brick skin piers with a return at the front?

So, Mike (and anyone else), any advice on which way to go?

Cheers
Mark
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Seems a bit overkill for what is a very small shed Mark, personally it would be a wooden construction if it were mine, made in sections in the workshop & just fixed to a brick plinth.
Why work outside when you can work in a nice warm workshop?
 
Hi Doug

It’s going to be wooden, I thought I said that, I’m just doing three courses at the bottom then wooden construction as you suggest.

It was more the construction of the brick piers for the log store I was concerned with.

I might not have explained very well what I’m doing, I’ll do a sketch after the school run to hopefully demonstrate better than I have explained.
 
I think some mortar between the bricks would be a good start :lol:
 
What you're really getting at is will the log pile push the brick pillars / sides out?

I built something similar on the end of my shed. My log store is about 1 x 1 x 2m (high) with same again next to it for garden junk. Single skin (no return), 3 courses then 2x4 frame with timber cladding.

No movement in 2 years.
 
Partly that mate, is it strong enough but also how to lay the bricks so there are holes in the sidewall and centre pillar to enable airflow.
 
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
 
AJB Temple":3v0up1o5 said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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Haha, I’d love to but there isn’t the space and I don’t need tons of space. I’ll fit the two big shelving unit’s that are in the workshop in that space and it will buy me a lot of free real estate back in the workshop.

I’ve also got another smaller tin shed hidden away that less important stuff can go in, so it’ll be big enough...he says...
 
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this purpose made for the job ?

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+1 for the ready made air bricks, but is this log store going to have doors or an open front? If an open front then is airflow from the sides necessary at all?
 
AJB Temple":27zimx4q said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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And the log store, but then I suspect you are burning logs for effect rather than actually heating anything.
 
StevieB":1w6j8xt3 said:
+1 for the ready made air bricks, but is this log store going to have doors or an open front? If an open front then is airflow from the sides necessary at all?
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Depends how dry the logs are before they go in there. If they are fresh cut then ventilation on 5 sides is ideal, ie off the ground too.
 
RogerS":pzh4v9jg said:
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this purpose made for the job ?

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Yep good idea. I just thought about it looking architecturally pretty with some creative brickwork.

I’ll keep air bricks in mind if we can’t come up with a nicer looking solution.
 
Andyp":2ybsr9ul said:
AJB Temple":2ybsr9ul said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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And the log store, but then I suspect you are burning logs for effect rather than actually heating anything.
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No we do use them to heat the lounge in the colder months. The UFH is on low but for those days when it’s really cold the stove goes on.
 
TrimTheKing":39wm3b81 said:
Andyp":39wm3b81 said:
AJB Temple":39wm3b81 said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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And the log store, but then I suspect you are burning logs for effect rather than actually heating anything.
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No we do use them to heat the lounge in the colder months. The UFH is on low but for those days when it’s really cold the stove goes on.
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So is your log store big enough to hold say 1/3 more than the size load that you buy and to segregate the left over third and the new batch?

Bob
 
TrimTheKing":2gek5iis said:
Partly that mate, is it strong enough but also how to lay the bricks so there are holes in the sidewall and centre pillar to enable airflow.
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The depth you're showing is only two bricks deep. You'd be hard pressed to pack logs tight enough to stop some air circulation. I wouldn't worry.

We've two log stores, both storing about 2m3 each, make sure the roof overhang is reasonable enough to stop driving rain wetting the faces of the exposed logs.
 
I think you've had your answers, Mark. I don't think your log store is going to be big enough, and if it is open-fronted it is going to need a very large roof overhang. The problem with open perps is that water will sit on the myriad little shelves that produces, and will damage the bricks and soften the mortar. Sleeper walls under wooden floors in old houses are built like this, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for a long life where exposed to the weather.

How is it you're building another shed before you've finished the first? ;)
 
Thanks for all the inputs chaps. I made a start yesterday with my very first ever attempt at laying bricks...

They’re far from perfect but not so bad as to stand out.

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All joints pointed up nicely at the end but ran out of mortar for that last brick so I’ll do that in the next session.
 
AJB Temple":20xij1cu said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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The rule of thumb is to build it twice as big as you think you'll need, and then the finished article will only be half the size you wish you'd built it! DAMHIKT. Looking good so far though!
 
RogerM":3oolsp2a said:
AJB Temple":3oolsp2a said:
Before you go any further, at least double the size of the shed! :D
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The rule of thumb is to build it twice as big as you think you'll need, and then the finished article will only be half the size you wish you'd built it! DAMHIKT. Looking good so far though!
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I'd love to lads but that is all the space I have available in that area. I do have another small shed that will also be having a plinth built, that is hidden away, so between the two I will be able to store all the infrequently used stuff (decorating gear etc) and gardening stuff. I will also have to be ruthless in clearing out some of it as we have so much duplication it's unreal!
 
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