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Template problem ?

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Bought this template from Trend. It's for joining worktops but I'm hoping to use it to join the 'sole plates' together on the Orangerie.

I did a trial cut in some ply but if you look closely at the bottom of the cross you'll see that it's not long enough.

The alignment dowels are hard up against the ply so I can;t see that I'm doing anything wrong. Simple fix I know but will contact Trend to see what they have to say. I'm using the correct router bit and guide bush.



 
Had a similar problem a few years back i used some 2 x 1 as a sacrificial fence aligned it parallel to the edge marked and drilled for the alignement dowels and then when routing it went into the fence and cleared the worktop i was routing

Wish i still had it id show you but it got lost in the last house move

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Would a smaller bush or larger diameter cutter solve the issue ?

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Some of this type of jig come with location pins that are stepped, ie they are a bigger diameter where they touch the work piece, that would solve the problem by moving the template over the edge.
Do you have a lathe? I cannot remember if you are on the spinny side, but it would only be a few minutes work to turn a couple up.
 
Coley":xbi8o45g said:
Would a smaller bush or larger diameter cutter solve the issue ?

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Yes I guess it would at the expense of removing more material. I've simply added a bit of 9mm ply glued to the inside of the dowels and that shifts the template far enough. Still would be good if Trend actually got it right in the first place !

It actually helps me in this instance as I'm routing out on a relatively narrow piece of cill compared to a large worktop.
 
Did they supply those dowels? It's been a few years since I've used a worktop jig.

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Coley":93i2m626 said:
Did they supply those dowels? It's been a few years since I've used a worktop jig.

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Yes they did and the holes were already drilled.
 
Does seem a bit peculiar then.
I seem to remember one jig having pegs this shape
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I only remember it cause the firm I use to work for would never buy anything new. It always use to be ex hire worn out junk. My foreman used it for the first time cause apparently he was the most experienced. Next time I saw the jig it had a lump of hard filler in it cause he forgot to attach the bush [emoji23][emoji23]

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New jigs have the cross bevause of the new joining bolts and some leave some material so you drill through it and it helps with assembly as one side is retained

I found 3 different brands and all have different quirks

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Bucks woodshop":1jc7sk64 said:
New jigs have the cross bevause of the new joining bolts and some leave some material so you drill through it and it helps with assembly as one side is retained

I found 3 different brands and all have different quirks

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That’s why I believed it to be like that, so you drill through and it stops the bolt dropping out onto your face when working in a tight cupboard...

Maybe you missed that in the instructions Roger, or the instructions are pants and don’t mention it.
 
TrimTheKing":jgnrjw4b said:
....., or the instructions are pants and don’t mention it.
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:eusa-clap: Definitely pants.

Out of curiosity, so how do you thread the clamp through both worktops when they are butted up against each other ?
 
Very carefully [emoji6][emoji23][emoji23]

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Ha ! I was right.

First reply from Trend

I have checked one of these from our stock and it seems correct.

Please see attached diagram. The outer line show the jig position. The dowels mated up to the edge of the paper edges.

The yellow area shows the machined area after the 8.65mm offset.

The bolt is long enough, as you can see there is some spare thread.

Please can you check again? I could not see the edge of the worktop/workpiece on the plan view photo you provided.

Which make and model of router are you using please?

My response

Please find attached the photo
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You can see that the dowels are mated hard against the edge of the wood…equivalent to the edge of your paper.

The length of the bolt is irrelevant, surely. As is, I think, the router being used TBH but for the record it is one of yours.

I fixed it by adding a spacer - see attached
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Perplexed at this end !

and by return

Apologies there does seem be an error after all, the dowel positions are wrong.

We can send you a replacement when we have a new batch.

Please advise your address.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Glad I'm not losing my marbles. :D
 
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