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WC Bodge ? advice please

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No Idea how old our loo is, 50's I'd guess.
The other day, Wifey messaged me to say is was loose !

So I came in to have a look .. the 4 fixing screws (into the concrete floor) seem to have sheared off. All at once !

I have no idea where all my tools are for this sort of fix... in one of the sheds somewhere ..., so I quickly built an MDF "throne" around it, so it can't wobble about, and so won't leak.

Right .. the question is ... Bodge number 2 .. what can I realistically use to "glue" it to the concrete floor, before I get round to, some how, drilling out the fixing screws and replacing them ?

it's our only loo .. so needs to be a rolling project !

It may come to getting the camping porta potty out, so I can take the loo out and fix it properly ! :lol:

My 1st try will be to drill down the side of the existing screws and fix with new ones ...

I just need as many ideas/solutions as poss, before I start ... can't stop half way through !

I thought the glue (grip fix etc.) would do, while I spent however many days it might take to drill the old ones out

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Do you have the option of changing the length of the soil pipe and moving the loo so new holes can be drilled?
 
One of ours recently replaced with a modern design has no fixing holes and the plumber just used silicon clear sealer, then white around the join.

Rod
 
I've used a chemical mortar resin for stone and concrete fixings and repairs. It's a two-pack in one tube and gets mixed in the nozzle as you squeeze the gun.
 
Traditionally toilets were mortared down to concrete floors the screws were just pushed into the holes while the mortar was still wet.
If this is the case I'd suggest you try getting some rapid setting floor tile adhesive, ease the toilet up as much as you dare & push the adhesive under, waggle the pan until it it sits nicely & leave for a couple of hours.

If you want a quicker fix mix the adhesive with warm water.

Personally I wouldn't try drilling down the side of the existing screws as the slightest slip & the old porcelain will break
 
Andy
Thanks, but I don't really want to get that involved with it at the moment.

Thanks for the other comments too .. I think I'll use a combination of them all.

Lifting the loo slightly and glueing it with something.

I'm thinking slicone, as it's flexible. Wedge/pack the loo up a little, so it sits soundly on the wedges, then squeeze the silicon in

I'd worry that someone would need to sit on it before it's set, and a solid setting adhesive would crack and I'd be back where I started ?
 
Plumbers will often fasten pans down with silicon these days if there is a reason they can't fix into the floor. No More Nails, and similar adhesive/ fillers are also used, and in my mind likely to be slightly more appropriate. As you say, wedge it now, squeeze the gunk in, and then don't let anyone use it for 24 hours. Inspect carefully for leaks around the water inlet and the waste pipe outlet over the next few days, because movement may have caused issues.

Oh, and don't think of this as a bodge*. This is a perfectly legitimate way of seating a pan.



*Yep, I'm well aware of what bodgers used to do. ;) Indeed, still do.......
 
Mike G":rrijl5o9 said:
and then don't let anyone use it for 24 hours.
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Thanks Mike ... but it's our only WC !

so I have another plan ! lol

I'll build a frame and put a board with a hole in it, over the loo. Sort of out house style .

Then it can still be used whilst the sealant/glue is setting.


As it's been there for many years ... there will be lots of bleach and other "liquid" seeped into the concrete.

Will this affect the sealant/glue ?
Should I PVA the area 1st ?

Any advice welcome, before I get started :D

and thanks again everyone ...
It'd be easy if it didn't have to be used for a day or two :-)
 
No, don't worry. Just gunk it up as is. And a supported board over the loo is a great idea!! Make sure you invite the neighbours around to have a look!!! :)

Frankly, if you do this job last thing at night, it should be perfectly safe to use by the morning.
 
Our new downstairs WC (Laufen Pro) has no fixing holes for the pan and cistern. The pan is glued to the floor and the cistern to the wall tiles, both with silicon. They've survived 9months so far and seem rock solid. The cistern is fastened to the pan.

Rod
 
Thanks Everyone .. I feel better about "bodging" it now :-D

I've never fitted one that wasn't screwed before.

So I just need to cut a crescent moon shape in the door before I start :lol:
 
All fixed :-) ... :lol:


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You wouldn't want to muck up this type of repair job, or you'll end up deep in it! :lol:

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