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Well, if you're forced to have such a wide flat area in front of the work, it's a good job you've got a fancy cranked chisel to do the delicate paring!😏
 
Well, there are other ways to skin that cat but one nice thing about the mitre jack is that it raises the work to a more comfortable level than, say, bending over a bench vise.
 
AndyT said:
Well, if you're forced to have such a wide flat area in front of the work, it's a good job you've got a fancy cranked chisel to do the delicate paring!😏
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I'd love to have a cranked paring chisel. I keep my eye out for them but I think they're quite unusual aren't they?
 
NickM said:
I'd love to have a cranked paring chisel. I keep my eye out for them but I think they're quite unusual aren't they?
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They're still made, in Sheffield, by Henry Taylor, in a choice of width and length:

www.toolnut.co.uk

Henry Taylor Short Cranked Paring Chisel

The Henry Taylor Bevel Edge Short Cranked Chisel has a shorter blade than most traditional cranked chisels. Keeps the blade flat on the stock at all times.
www.toolnut.co.uk www.toolnut.co.uk

www.toolnut.co.uk

Henry Taylor Cranked Paring Chisel - Dark Range

The traditional Henry Taylor Cranked Paring Chisel has a long cranked blade which allows you to keep the blade absolutely flat on the stock at all times.
www.toolnut.co.uk www.toolnut.co.uk
 
AndyT said:
They're still made, in Sheffield, by Henry Taylor, in a choice of width and length:

www.toolnut.co.uk

Henry Taylor Short Cranked Paring Chisel

The Henry Taylor Bevel Edge Short Cranked Chisel has a shorter blade than most traditional cranked chisels. Keeps the blade flat on the stock at all times.
www.toolnut.co.uk www.toolnut.co.uk

www.toolnut.co.uk

Henry Taylor Cranked Paring Chisel - Dark Range

The traditional Henry Taylor Cranked Paring Chisel has a long cranked blade which allows you to keep the blade absolutely flat on the stock at all times.
www.toolnut.co.uk www.toolnut.co.uk
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You're a bad man! I knew you'd know where to find them!
 
That does look like a beautiful piece of stone.
I only learned about Indiana limestone from your thread about it, which you posted just as I was reading Carol Shields' novel, The Stone Diaries.
 
AndyT said:
That does look like a beautiful piece of stone.
I only learned about Indiana limestone from your thread about it, which you posted just as I was reading Carol Shields' novel, The Stone Diaries.
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Haven't read that one Andy, have you read Larry's Party.
 
What a brill facility to have nearby, I think I might be incorporating stone into all sorts of things if I had that near me.
That certainly is a heavy chunk Gary!
Could I be cheeky and ask what sort of price for that? Obviously it’s taken some time to produce and it’s looking very nice indeed.
 
Cabinetman said:
What a brill facility to have nearby, I think I might be incorporating stone into all sorts of things if I had that near me.
That certainly is a heavy chunk Gary!
Could I be cheeky and ask what sort of price for that? Obviously it’s taken some time to produce and it’s looking very nice indeed.
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It was $200, which, although they didn't specify, I'm guessing is almost all for labor/labour and facility costs. I was told that for something small like this they just start with a piece of scrap stone from the yard which at this point costs them nothing. I believe they also sell those scrap pieces by the pound but I didn't ask. If you need random sized pieces like for a walkway, and don't mine hauling them yourself, it is a good way to go.

I'll add that one of my sisters lives not too far from you in Londonderry, New Hampshire. She recently had some granite steps installed at her house. The stone came from Swenson Stone Works. They have several locations. I think hers came from Concord, NH
 
GaryR said:
It was $200, which, although they didn't specify, I'm guessing is almost all for labor/labour and facility costs. I was told that for something small like this they just start with a piece of scrap stone from the yard which at this point costs them nothing. I believe they also sell those scrap pieces by the pound but I didn't ask. If you need random sized pieces like for a walkway, and don't mine hauling them yourself, it is a good way to go.

I'll add that one of my sisters lives not too far from you in Londonderry, New Hampshire. She recently had some granite steps installed at her house. The stone came from Swenson Stone Works. They have several locations. I think hers came from Concord, NH
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That’s really good value, I find that most things seem expensive here, and thank you for that too Concord isn’t too far and we definitely need new steps too, ours are lethal when it’s icy. A project for this year!
 
Although I was looking forward to seeing you do the fluting on the legs, that design does look more of a whole, I think.
 
One leg tapered today plus a simple recessed field at the top. Band saw and hand planes for the taper.

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I haven't quite given up on flutes. I played around a little with Sketchup to see whether I would like them. It turns out to be really time consuming to draw actual rounded flutes so these are just square grooves and it looks a little busy to my eye. If I did it for real I'd probably stop them short of the mouldings. What do you think?

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My thoughts are that I like the bottom third a lot, the proportions are just right, the top is pretty good it’s the bit at the top of the tapers that looks like it needs just a bit of something to my eye.I’m referring to the actual leg not the drawing btw.
Ian
 
I agree it's a bit "busy".

I wonder if they might look better if they're less evenly spaced - i.e. have the flutes grouped closer together with a slightly larger border at the edges?
 
NickM said:
I agree it's a bit "busy".

I wonder if they might look better if they're less evenly spaced - i.e. have the flutes grouped closer together with a slightly larger border at the edges?
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I was thinking something like this (without the foot), but I couldn't draw it. Something decorative in the recessed field would be nice, too, but that won't happen.

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The top frame is rough cut. I'm using a Japanese locked miter at the corners Those still need to be fit, but here are the proportions along with a test stick for the finish regime. Cherry darkens naturally over time but I wanted a faster route. Cherry can be darkened immediately with sodium hydroxide and the tests are different times of that and with shellac or oil finish.

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Here's the layout/setout for the shachi sen trench in the locking corner joints. Getting those lines inside the mortice right is a challenge. That double line in front is not a mistake. The layout is done first at 45 degrees and then tapered slightly, about 1.5 mm. There is a special trick for getting the taper right on the inside of the mortice, but I'm not going to tell you how I did it.

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AndyT said:
Guide block on the outside?
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Close, but it can't be on the outside or there is no way to get a pencil inside. Instead, put the guide block on the inside. Make a guide block the same size as the interior of the mortice and set out offset to the same distance as the offset on the tenon side. The add the taper and saw to the taper line.
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Cabinetman said:
That’s really good value, I find that most things seem expensive here, and thank you for that too Concord isn’t too far and we definitely need new steps too, ours are lethal when it’s icy. A project for this year!
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Ian - worth trying, but not sure for your region in the US. In our German home town near Köln there are at least three masons doing headstones etc. They always have a lot of offcuts and I pick these up for next to nothing. We use them for signage and paving and lanterns etc in our Japanese garden. Some of it carves surprisingly easily.

There is also a market in used gravestones as in Germany (or this bit of it at least) graves are leased for I think 20 or 30 years, then you can renew the plot or you must remove the stones. This is basically giveaway material. I only know this through family links - not being ghoulish.
 
AJB Temple said:
Ian - worth trying, but not sure for your region in the US. In our German home town near Köln there are at least three masons doing headstones etc. They always have a lot of offcuts and I pick these up for next to nothing. We use them for signage and paving and lanterns etc in our Japanese garden. Some of it carves surprisingly easily.

There is also a market in used gravestones as in Germany (or this bit of it at least) graves are leased for I think 20 or 30 years, then you can renew the plot or you must remove the stones. This is basically giveaway material. I only know this through family links - not being ghoulish.
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Thank you Adrian, we HAVE to do something before next winter, Pam tool a step out onto the top one onto black ice and was very lucky not to have damaged anything more than her sense of humour as she eventually landed in a big bank of snow. It could have been very nasty.
Strange re the headstones, one, they lose history? Two, they must presumably be putting new coffins on top of old, not sure Granny would have liked some strange man lying on top of her for eternity lol.
 
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