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Which do you guys prefer ?

Which do you prefer ? A or B ?

  • A

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • B

    Votes: 11 78.6%
  • Total voters
    14
the bear":1cnv8r28 said:
I hate bodging but if the intention is to sell, fill the joints and a coat of paint, sod all that work and time that no one will appreciate. After all you presumably bought it like this.

Mark
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What I was trying to say earlier but was too polite to spell out.
 
Andyp":15veyfy3 said:
the bear":15veyfy3 said:
I hate bodging but if the intention is to sell, fill the joints and a coat of paint, sod all that work and time that no one will appreciate. After all you presumably bought it like this.

Mark
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What I was trying to say earlier but was too polite to spell out.
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Yup....number one task for this morning is to re-appraise.
 
The existing door is a no-hoper. All the joints have or are in the process of failing. The lock stile has dropped 12mm.

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The paintwork on the external- South facing needs total removal and since it's full of fiddly mouldings, just not worth the time and effort.

Besides...we like making things, don't we :D
 
RogerS":3ghjhthb said:
The existing door is a no-hoper. All the joints have or are in the process of failing. The lock stile has dropped 12mm.
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I would've thought all the joints having failed would be OK provided there's no rot, which makes it easier to disassemble and re-glue the door.
 
Trevanion":c59xkpbp said:
RogerS":c59xkpbp said:
The existing door is a no-hoper. All the joints have or are in the process of failing. The lock stile has dropped 12mm.
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I would've thought all the joints having failed would be OK provided there's no rot, which makes it easier to disassemble and re-glue the door.
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I may have exaggerated a bit when I said all joints. Besides the door is way too heavy for me to manhandle it by myself and being out in the sticks no neighbours to speak of. Then I'd have to get some temporary sheeting in to block the doorway up. Just not worth it, Dan.

Much better IMO to make a new one. Larger 'fanlight'. Then get a guy in to help me install.
 
It's interesting and I get where Rog is coming from. Example: I bought a reclaimed oak panelled external door for use on a utility area with external access. It had been pre-stripped by the dealer I know who sold it to me for £100. Despite having been stripped it took me three days to get rid of all the crud in the crevices and make a new fielded panel to replace the one that had a letterbox originally, hours of sanding, sorting out the lock and hinge slots etc. I made the frame.

By the time I finished fixing it I really wished I had just made a new door myself. It would have taken me less time and been better. Every time I look at the thing I regard it as a mistake.

Roger - do the design to appeal to the estate agent and buyer not you or your wife. ;)
 
RogerS":398kzx85 said:
I may have exaggerated a bit when I said all joints. Besides the door is way too heavy for me to manhandle it by myself and being out in the sticks no neighbours to speak of. Then I'd have to get some temporary sheeting in to block the doorway up. Just not worth it, Dan.
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There's a way to do everything without much physical strain so long as you think about it, take the door off its hinges and lean it against a wall (or ideally onto some saw horses, pretty easy to do using the door as a lever instead of trying to lift the bulk weight), knock the bad joints a bit looser if possible, microwave a bottle of PU glue so that it's warm and watery so that it flows into the joints better and then clamp up with some sash clamps making sure that the door is square, or adequately out-of-square to compensate for the drop if required.

It'll take you a day instead of days faffing around with a new door that you won't appreciate for very long as you will be moving, and likely will be torn out by the next owners for their own tastes. I have seen people spend tens of thousands on their property to get it into a "saleable" condition only for the next owners to tear out everything and start again. I don't know how many perfectly good, brand-new kitchens and bathrooms I've seen torn out because it wasn't to the new owner's style.

Generally, people who are looking for a property of that calibre are people who want a fixer-upper and imitate Angel and Dick on Escape to the Chateau doing all sorts of whacky ideas, and then there's another group of people who will want to return the building to as original as possible, which would involve replicating all the original joinery including the 6-panel front door without a fanlight.
 
Trevanion":17xcjzp6 said:
I have seen people spend tens of thousands on their property to get it into a "saleable" condition only for the next owners to tear out everything and start again. I don't know how many perfectly good, brand-new kitchens and bathrooms I've seen torn out because it wasn't to the new owner's style.
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I made a decent living doing exactly that. ;)
 
Trevanion":1wbeuhvs said:
..... which would involve replicating all the original joinery including the 6-panel front door without a fanlight.
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Umm..done all of that already. Skirtings, architraves, internal doors all copied from Bowood House.

TBH Dan, I think you make some fair points but also a lot of sweeping generalisations.

Bottom line...I ain't struggling with that lousy old door. New one's in glue-up as I type.
 
RogerS":3dsm5u2a said:
TBH Dan, I think you make some fair points but also a lot of sweeping generalisations.
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Just trying to offer options to make your life easier Roger. I'll keep quiet from now on.
 
Trevanion":2cnggpcq said:
RogerS":2cnggpcq said:
TBH Dan, I think you make some fair points but also a lot of sweeping generalisations.
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Just trying to offer options to make your life easier Roger. I'll keep quiet from now on.
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And they are always welcome, Dan.
 
Cabinetman":3uozo3ft said:
I think what really makes a door like that is the overlay slip mouldings around the panels, ( if you do it that way) do they have a name?
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Aren't they Bolection mouldings?

Roger, this as a big decision. Get it right, otherwise it is a lot of work to make a very big mistake. I made a very beautiful front door. Once.
S
 
You don't hang around Roger. In your situation I would just buy a new door, I hate the thought of doing this sort of thing knowing I'm going to walk away from it shortly (completely diff for a pro or doing it to help family and friends). However I also suspect you'll have it done and hung before I got the new door in my hands :D
Best of luck

Mark
 
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