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Data Xfer ethernet cat5e so Sloooow

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I’m using Migration Assistant to transfer data from Late 2009 iMac to new Mac mini via cat5e ethernet cable at a dizzyingly slow speed of 10mb/s .
Am I right in thinking that no matter how “fast” the cable is the ethernet port in the old iMac could be restricted to just 10mb/s?

At current rate I’ve more than 8 hours to wait and it’s been going an hour already. Not much I can do about it now and it is no big deal just curious as I had high hopes of much faster setup.
 
Why so slow then Mark?
Just gone back to check on progress. Now states just over 2 hours remaining at 11.3mb/s so although the transfer speed has not vastly increased the time remaining has dropped considerably.
 
Sorry Mark I hadn’t thought of looking up M A as the problem. Could have found that.

it’s not worth changing the cable now TBH with just an hour and a half to go and I’ve got tea to get ready. I do wonder if wifi would’ve have been quicker.
Last time I setup a new Mac I did not have the luxury of going from a working machine so just set up the new one from the backup drive. I should have done the same this time but on the face of it Migration Assistant seemed a no brainer.
Live and learn I guess.
 
AndyP said:
Why so slow then Mark?
Just gone back to check on progress. Now states just over 2 hours remaining at 11.3mb/s so although the transfer speed has not vastly increased the time remaining has dropped considerably.
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Never believe the 'only x hours/mis to go' as it is always pessimistic.
 
AndyP said:
... Now states just over 2 hours remaining at 11.3mb/s so although the transfer speed has not vastly increased the time remaining has dropped considerably.
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That would be the censor in MA deleting stuf it doesn't think you should have ;) Sorry thought I mentioned that :giggle:
 
I'd have thought that thunderbolt if possible is by far the fastest way to do this? especially thunderbolt 4 at 40gbps potentially.
 
thetyreman said:
I'd have thought that thunderbolt if possible is by far the fastest way to do this? especially thunderbolt 4 at 40gbps potentially.
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Yebbut...does he have Thunderbolt on the old machine ?
 
The older iMac should have a Firewire 800 port, and the new Mac Mini should have a Thunderbolt port.

I looked into this when I bought a Mac Mini to replace my failed 27-inch Late 2009 iMac. The Graphic Processing Unit (GPU) failed due to overheating after the thermal compound dried up and the computer no longer booted up. A replacement GPU was no longer available, so I decided to buy a Mac Mini.

Since I couldn't use the iMac with Migration Assistant, I was going to use the current external backup disk to migrate my data to the Mac Mini. The backup disk chassis has only FW800, FW400, and USB-2 ports. I found a thread on MacRumors that described exactly what I wanted to do, but it required two adapter cables to connect the backup disk to the Mac Mini. I bought a FW800 to Thunderbolt 2 cable, and a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 cable. There was no FW800 to TB3 cable, so the conversion had to be done with two cables.

While waiting on the cables to arrive, I found a place in Germany that would repair and guarantee the GPU for a flat rate, so I removed it and sent it off. Four days later it arrived and I had a fully functional iMac. I took the opportunity to replace the thermal compound on the CPU, which was much needed and clean out all of the dust bunnies from the rest of the computer. The Mac Mini is still in my desk drawer and has not been turned on. The Late 2009 iMac is still working great.
 
Mike said:
The backup disk . The Late 2009 iMac is still working great.
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What version of OSX are you on, Mike? I have a similar vintage iMac but finding Safari can’t display a lot of websites and other programs similarly affected
 
Interesting Mike thanks.
It took 4hours 41 mins in the end to migrate everything, as Roger mentioned the time remaining estimate was wildly exaggerated. Nothing wrong with my late 2009 iMac only they OS can’t be upgraded any more and a few apps are struggling with the old chipset and the MSOffice for Mac was struggling too and no loner supported
There are a few apps still to upgrade and the Lacie backup drive to connect but pleased at the moment that everything appears to be where it should be.

I’m using the apple wired keyboard which at the moment will not control the volume through the Dell monitor’s inbuilt speakers.:unsure:
 
RogerS said:
What version of OSX are you on, Mike? I have a similar vintage iMac but finding Safari can’t display a lot of websites and other programs similarly affected
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I'll check later this afternoon, but I think it's the end of life version of 10.13 High Sierra. I use Firefox and haven't had any problems with the sites I visit.

My mid-2009 MacBook Pro is also at its end of life OSX with 10.11.6 El Capitan, but other than replacing the WiFi module a couple of years ago, it still chugs along. I have a 2012 MBP on standby, but the redesigned keyboard is awkward for me and I spend too much time backspacing to correct typos.

Andy, I've been holding off replacing both of my Macs because the applications I use the most work well as stand-alone products and might not work well on the newer platforms. The current versions of each of the applications are subscription based, and I'm not ready to commit to the new format.

My iMac came with the tiny BT keyboard (called the chiclet keyboard). I replaced it the same day I unboxed the iMac with the wired Apple keyboard so I could have larger keys, a numeric keypad, and two USB ports. The keyboard will eventually go with the Mac Mini.
 
Mike, if you are going to use the Apple wired keyboard with the Mac Mini and connect a monitor with inbuilt speakers (I'm using a Dell ) via HDMI the volume keys on the keyboard will not work. A bit frustrating but not the end of the world for me.
 
A lot depends on the size of your files bigger ones will go faster as it needs to check the file down loaded correctly smaller files more checks.

Pete
 
AndyP said:
Mike, if you are going to use the Apple wired keyboard with the Mac Mini and connect a monitor with inbuilt speakers (I'm using a Dell ) via HDMI the volume keys on the keyboard will not work. A bit frustrating but not the end of the world for me.
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Thanks, Andy. I have a 32-inch curved monitor by Aryond on standby for the Mac Mini. It has built-in speakers, so when the time comes to put it into service, I'll update this post.
 
If you can find a way around it then please let me know. One solution maybe to connect the monitor via something other than HDMI. Not an option for me.
 
AndyP said:
Mike, if you are going to use the Apple wired keyboard with the Mac Mini and connect a monitor with inbuilt speakers (I'm using a Dell ) via HDMI the volume keys on the keyboard will not work. A bit frustrating but not the end of the world for me.
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Doesn't the Mini have it's own in built speaker, Andy?
 
Mike said:
I'll check later this afternoon, but I think it's the end of life version of 10.13 High Sierra. I use Firefox and haven't had any problems with the sites I visit.

My mid-2009 MacBook Pro is also at its end of life OSX with 10.11.6 El Capitan, but other than replacing the WiFi module a couple of years ago, it still chugs along. I have a 2012 MBP on standby, but the redesigned keyboard is awkward for me and I spend too much time backspacing to correct typos.

Andy, I've been holding off replacing both of my Macs because the applications I use the most work well as stand-alone products and might not work well on the newer platforms. The current versions of each of the applications are subscription based, and I'm not ready to commit to the new format.

My iMac came with the tiny BT keyboard (called the chiclet keyboard). I replaced it the same day I unboxed the iMac with the wired Apple keyboard so I could have larger keys, a numeric keypad, and two USB ports. The keyboard will eventually go with the Mac Mini.
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Thanks Mike. My old iMac is older than yours as it won't upgrade further past El C and TBH is destined for the tip. The even older Macbook Pro ...which I bought second hand too long ago rather stupidly and should have got shot of it sooner is decrepit and on Lion. That is definitely tip-food
 
I had an old MacBook which was 7 years old and wouldn’t update. I took it back to the Apple Store when I had bought a new laptop and they gave me a £100 gift card for it which so might be better than taking it to the tip.
 
Not sure if you can still install Chrome OS on Macs that old, but you can probably install Ubuntu if that helps you at all. I’ve installed both on a late 2009 iMac and they’re usable, but didn’t get much use from me because of the slow hard disk in mine.
 
Weekend_Woodworker said:
I had an old MacBook which was 7 years old and wouldn’t update. I took it back to the Apple Store when I had bought a new laptop and they gave me a £100 gift card for it which so might be better than taking it to the tip.
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Only if you're in the market for a new one !
 
I forgot about this thread until I read @Chris152's thread about Photoshop.

I finally replaced all of my Mac computers two months ago. I had a late-2009 27-inch iMac (bought new), mid-2009 15-inch MacBook Pro laptop (bought new), two late-2012 15-inch MacBook Pro laptops (these were given to me). I bought the iMac and MBP for photo processing and am satisfied with the 15+ years of mostly flawless performance.

Unfortunately, the hardware was not able to keep up with the OS updates and some of the office applications. Now I have a 2022 MacMini and a 2024 16-inch MBP and hope I can enjoy these for another 15 years. I bought the MacMini in 2022 when I thought the iMac had finally given up the ghost but never unboxed it after I found a fix for the iMac.

The Firewire 800 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter combination worked well and the data transfer to the MM took less than an hour. I spent another two or three hours pruning the software from the MM that no longer worked. Fortunately, the image processing software for my Nikon RAW images still works perfectly on the MM and MBP. This includes Capture NX 2 and Lightroom 6. Additionally, Capture One 11 that was free with the Sony A7II camera also works perfectly on the new MM.

Once I was satisfied with the MM, I used the ThunderBolt 3 cable to transfer the applications to the new MBP. I don't know how long this took because I started the transfer and left for a few hours. When I returned, the process was complete.

I was mistaken about the speakers in the 32-inch monitor. It has HDMI audio pass through for external speakers and the keyboard volume controls do not function. Fortunately, the inexpensive external speakers I'm using for now have a volume control. The quality of sound is bad, but better than the single MM internal speaker.
 
Mike, are you using a wired back up drive with the MM? My Lacie 500gb via USB cable keeps powering up and down, never stays in sleep mode for long. Backups via Carbon Copy Cloner are working but the constant powering up and down is both annoying and probably not good on the drive.
Plenty of info on line about this but still has been stumped.
 
Andy, I have two external drives to connect to my MM. They arrived earlier this week but I haven't had time to hook them up. The first is the 4TB OWA MiniStack STX. It has a 2TB HDD, a 2TB SSD PCIe card, and four Thunderbolt 4 ports (one to the MM and three for other devices). I will use this for external storage.

The second is the 2TB OWA MiniStack that connects to the MM via a USB 3.0 cable. I will use this for backups using CCC.

Both external drives connect to the Thunderbolt ports on the MM and have separate power supplies and cooling fans. The OWC spec sheets indicate these drives go to sleep, but I haven't put this to a test yet. When the MiniStack STX goes into sleep mode, the four Thunderbolt ports are still powered.
 
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