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Mike builds a teardrop (doors, cedar strips, ironmongery)
- Thread starter Mike G
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When you spoke about cedar strips before I had no idea they would be so small.
As for DSOTM, an iclipse?
Shame you didn't choose Animals
As for DSOTM, an iclipse?
Shame you didn't choose Animals
Mike G
Petrified Pine
I needed a bold, simple, monochrome iconography........and a pig flying over Battersea power station wasn't that!When you spoke about cedar strips before I had no idea they would be so small.
As for DSOTM, an iclipse?
Shame you didn't choose Animals
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Lons
Old Oak
As the album is alleged to be about insanity and I can't see how you can do that it might be a clock (Time)? If not I give up as Andy beat me to Eclipse.
Or maybe you're going to have one side dark and the other light as a reverse.
Or maybe you're going to have one side dark and the other light as a reverse.
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HdV
New Shoots
Of all the titles on that album only "Money", "Eclipse" or "On the Run" seem to be fitting. Money doesn't sound like something you'd put on your project. And I can't imagine you're on the run from something/someone, so maybe eclipse?
Lons
Old Oak
I sold my old vinyl years ago.
I still think it's this and if it isn't it should be. 
I still think it's this and if it isn't it should be.
Alasdair
Sapling
This is a fantastic build thread, all i can think of is the heart beep blip on the inside of the gatefold with contrasting wood colours as the refracted light running through it
Lons
Old Oak
Phil
Old Oak
Dark Side Of The Moon
Well here's my battered copy. So has to be the ziggedy line then
There’s probably a technical term for that ziggedy line
There’s probably a technical term for that ziggedy line
HdV
New Shoots
Ah, I never thought to open up the cover!
If I remember correctly that line was supposed to be a heartbeat.
If I remember correctly that line was supposed to be a heartbeat.
So you are going to paint a horizontal lightening flash then?
Thats a shame cos…. Wait for it……..There's no painting involved, Andy.
You could paint it….
Any Colour You Like.
Thank you. I have been listening to this all afternoon.
HdV
New Shoots
Oops. Either I misremembered or I never had it right all that time.
Are you gonna do that as an inlay with contrasting wood?
HdV
New Shoots
Building up the suspense... 
Pete Maddex
Old Oak
Letter box.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor. And every day the paperboy brings more
Pete
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor. And every day the paperboy brings more
Pete
Mike G
Petrified Pine
No, no, Pete....they've got it. It's the heartbeat graphic.
Lons
Old Oak
Yes one of the icons I remember but I've forgotten the story behind it. It's a very long time since I've listened to Pink Floyd.
Lons
Old Oak
That looks a bit like the ECG I took with my watch and caused me to go to the doc for an A-fib check.
HdV
New Shoots
I really should put that LP on the pickup again soon. It took way too long for that coin to drop. Even after you pointed me in the right direction.
Mike G
Petrified Pine
Is all brass the same? I need to fashion some strike plates, and I'm wondering if brass would be suitable. Stainless would be very hard for me to work with, so I don't think I have much choice but use brass (or maybe nylon or other plastic sheet, but........you know....). I don't think there'll be any bending involved, so it is only a matter of the wear resistance of the edge of say a 3mm thick sheet.
NickM
Old Oak
I think there are several different brass alloys Mike. Some have lead, some don't etc.
I looked into it a bit when I was building my table because, for one design, I was going to have to weld brass and some work better than others for that (and some are harder to buy).
I'm afraid I can't tell you whether a particular alloy would be better for your task.
I looked into it a bit when I was building my table because, for one design, I was going to have to weld brass and some work better than others for that (and some are harder to buy).
I'm afraid I can't tell you whether a particular alloy would be better for your task.
Dr.Al
Old Oak
As Nick said, there are plenty of different grades. The most common ones I've come across are CZ121 (what you'll generally get if you order brass bar stock without specifying a grade) and CZ108 (which you'll generally get if you order brass sheet without specifying a grade).
Like Nick I don't know much about the differences (except that CZ121 is much, much nicer to machine).
This might be useful though:
www.smithmetal.com
www.smithmetal.com
(and click on the links on the left to read about other grades)
Like Nick I don't know much about the differences (except that CZ121 is much, much nicer to machine).
This might be useful though:
CZ121 | CZ121 Brass | CW614N
CZ121 (CW614N) offers users a brass product with the highest possible machinability rating. The lead content in CZ121 acts as a lubricant and chip breaker.
CZ108 | CW508L | CZ108 Brass
CZ108 (CW508L) - a basic brass alloy with good hot and cold working characteristics. CZ108 (CW508L) contains 37% zinc. Send your RFQ to info@smithmetal.com.
(and click on the links on the left to read about other grades)
MattS
Nordic Pine
I hadn’t expected the pattern on the side, very cool.
Mike G
Petrified Pine
To make the Pink Floyd DSotM pattern, I needed to join some strips together NOT on the teardrop. That was a slightly tricky job, but some quick jigs for wedges, and lots of slippery parcel tape, made it work out OK:
And I carried on gluing in the little contrasting bits into ash strips:
One of the more difficult tasks with this whole project has been sourcing hardware, particularly for the doors and hatch (boot lid). Finally, I plumped for T handles slam latches, and a 3 point rod lock, all from Albert Jagger Ltd. I spent over 40 hours searching for this stuff online. It came parceled up on a rough bit of pine, and I used that for a quick mock-up of the hatch mechanism:
Here's the third locking point, in the centre of the door, unlocked then locked:
Now that I had the door handles and slam latches, I could add the supporting woodwork into the door frame:
I could then insulate the doors, which enabled me to clad them with the cedar strips:
There must have been one of my 25mm Celotex boards which was undersized, because there was a gap behind the cedar strips of about 3mm. That was much too much for the PU glue to fill:
.....so I sprayed expanding foam in as I went. It took care to prevent that turning into a really messy process. Things worked out OK:
That helped me see the effect I was getting:
It took careful attention to keep the strips on the door level with the strips on the body. I then trimmed around the window opening (a rasp with a curved face has been a really useful tool in all this cedar work):
I normally have my coping saw set up to cut on the pull, but this is what happened:
.......so I swapped the blade around to cut on the push.
A few minutes with a belt sander cleaned everything up:
However, there was some collateral damage......
And I carried on gluing in the little contrasting bits into ash strips:
One of the more difficult tasks with this whole project has been sourcing hardware, particularly for the doors and hatch (boot lid). Finally, I plumped for T handles slam latches, and a 3 point rod lock, all from Albert Jagger Ltd. I spent over 40 hours searching for this stuff online. It came parceled up on a rough bit of pine, and I used that for a quick mock-up of the hatch mechanism:
Here's the third locking point, in the centre of the door, unlocked then locked:
Now that I had the door handles and slam latches, I could add the supporting woodwork into the door frame:
I could then insulate the doors, which enabled me to clad them with the cedar strips:
There must have been one of my 25mm Celotex boards which was undersized, because there was a gap behind the cedar strips of about 3mm. That was much too much for the PU glue to fill:
.....so I sprayed expanding foam in as I went. It took care to prevent that turning into a really messy process. Things worked out OK:
That helped me see the effect I was getting:
It took careful attention to keep the strips on the door level with the strips on the body. I then trimmed around the window opening (a rasp with a curved face has been a really useful tool in all this cedar work):
I normally have my coping saw set up to cut on the pull, but this is what happened:
.......so I swapped the blade around to cut on the push.
A few minutes with a belt sander cleaned everything up:
However, there was some collateral damage......
Mike G
Petrified Pine
Unfortunately, one of the strips must have been thinner than the others in one corner of the door, and I sanded right through some of the contrasting veneers:
Bugger!
I took the door to the workshop, and after thinking about it for a minute, realised the only way to re-do them was to employ the router:
I didn't want to do them all at once, as I could lose my references, so I did the wortk in two batches:
At that point, I ground to a halt......
Bugger!
I took the door to the workshop, and after thinking about it for a minute, realised the only way to re-do them was to employ the router:
I didn't want to do them all at once, as I could lose my references, so I did the wortk in two batches:
At that point, I ground to a halt......
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Yes, most annoying. Good sturdy looking catch that.
Mike G
Petrified Pine
Just to bring things up to date. DaveL did my heartbeat iconography on his CNC machine, and will be posting a video of that shortly. The complication is that my longer pieces were 1.5m or so long, and his machine bed is 1m.......and the machine is hard up against a wall. It was awkward.
Here is one of the short pieces being done:
And here are all 4 pieces, ready for cutting and fixing in place. It may be a little while:
They're cut 2mm deep, and I'll be filling them with a pale filler. The keen eyed might notice the word "back" scrawled on one of them. We got it a bit wrong on the "good" side, and so had to flip over and use the wrong side.
Here is one of the short pieces being done:
And here are all 4 pieces, ready for cutting and fixing in place. It may be a little while:
They're cut 2mm deep, and I'll be filling them with a pale filler. The keen eyed might notice the word "back" scrawled on one of them. We got it a bit wrong on the "good" side, and so had to flip over and use the wrong side.