New garage shop

[RogerS]

It's amazing what a handful of people can achieve with man-power alone. I've seen a double decker bus pushed out of deep sand in Namibia by a dozen passengers......so I'm not surprised to see a lump of cast iron get pushed up a ramp.

Someone needs to explain that capability to the incompetent muppets who failed to manhandle my Hammer C3-3, removed the sliding table thus rendering it unusable, unsaleable and, in its current location unfixable. This is likely to get legal.

Great space you have there, Gary

 

[GaryR]

Well, we made it to our new home, but unfortunately our belongings are held up until Friday. We are busy, however, changing banks, changing locks, registering for this and that service, and exploring the changes in the town that have occurred over the 35 years since we lived here last.

We are relieved that we actually like the house as much as we hoped we would. And the neighborhood is even nicer that we expected. Here is a sneak peek. A typical-for-the-neighborhood midcentury ranch. Built in 1963. Brick veneer and vinyl siding. I wish a previous owner had not painted the brick but so it goes.


And a view from the deck in the back. The Japanese shed will go back there somewhere.

 

[Mike G]

Phew!! That must be a relief.

 

[AndyP]

Nice bungalow and what looks a lovely plot. “Changing banks” intrigues me. I have to guess that banks are not national then?

 

[MattS]

Glad it all worked out, lovely looking property! Big fan of American mid century properties like that.

 

[GaryR]

Nice bungalow and what looks a lovely plot. “Changing banks” intrigues me. I have to guess that banks are not national then?

Some banks are national, yes, but there are many local and regional banks. We actually use a credit union, a type of bank that is owned by its members. Those are mostly local.

 

[Cabinetman]

That’s quite a trip Gary, I did one days worth yesterday driving back to Lancaster PA from Boston, certainly don’t envy you 6 days of it. We’ve done it a few times now and I must say it’s getting easier but still I think I’d take a day of in the middle.
Best of luck and watch out behind for the crazies who weave in and out well over the speed limit, had one yesterday who missed the front corner of our car by less than 2 feet, we were in the middle lane and he was going from 3 to 1, noticeably a lot more of them near the big Cities, DC is the worst.
Ian
Edit missed a page, glad it worked out well.
Also glad you like the new place, that back view is stunning.

 

[GaryR]

 

[Cabinetman]

Looking quite full there Gary, no doubt you will get it sorted soon enough.

 

[duke]

Well, we made it to our new home, but unfortunately our belongings are held up until Friday. We are busy, however, changing banks, changing locks, registering for this and that service, and exploring the changes in the town that have occurred over the 35 years since we lived here last.

We are relieved that we actually like the house as much as we hoped we would. And the neighborhood is even nicer that we expected. Here is a sneak peek. A typical-for-the-neighborhood midcentury ranch. Built in 1963. Brick veneer and vinyl siding. I wish a previous owner had not painted the brick but so it goes.
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And a view from the deck in the back. The Japanese shed will go back there somewhere.
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Very nice home Gary!

 

[RogerS]

..... “Changing banks” intrigues me. I have to guess that banks are not national then?

LOL....some are but there are small banks all over the place. It's how a lot of scams continue from small bank to small bank. Remind me to tell you about the day they introduced machine readable paying in slips.

 

[GaryR]

Progress. The big machines and the bench are more or less where I want them. Most everything else is in temporary locations while I have the electrical circuits installed. I opted for surface mounting the wiring on the walls and ceiling to make it easier to move things later if I need to. Electricians were here today and should finish tomorrow, including routing wires in the attic for more ceiling strip lights. A cyclone dust collector will go into a closet that I'll build in one corner. The blue tape shows the footprint. I'll remove the wall cabinets.

 

[Cabinetman]

You’ve moved in remarkably quickly Gary considering all the other hundred things that need your attention and looking good too.
Are you having a vent back into the workshop from the extractor area? Good opportunity to put a filter in.

Just what is that sanding machine with a mile of belt? Crikey.

 

[Mike G]

Just what is that sanding machine with a mile of belt? Crikey.

I'm seeing that as a drive belt. I've no idea about the machine, though.

 

[Doug]

Good progress Gary, which cyclone do you have.

 

[Cabinetman]

Oh yes silly me!

 

[GaryR]

You’ve moved in remarkably quickly Gary considering all the other hundred things that need your attention and looking good too.
Are you having a vent back into the workshop from the extractor area? Good opportunity to put a filter in.

Just what is that sanding machine with a mile of belt? Crikey.

The cyclone has pleated filters. Clean air will be ducted from the closet up into the attic and then flexible duct in the attic will return the air to the shop through a ceiling vent near the garage door.

And yes the belt drive is for an antique mortiser. It is so fun to see and hear it in motion.

 

[GaryR]

Dust collector closet is about half done. There is a lot going on in a small space and it is taking me awhile.

The programme is to make it just big enough to fit the collector but also build in enough sound attenuation as practical. Freestanding so it doesn't transmit vibrations to the garage framing, 2x4 walls, fiberglass insulation, double drywall inside and out with sound dampening glue, and sound clips to dampen the drywall on the outside of the two shop facing walls. Air will exit through the closet up by the motor into a space captured between the closet and the shop wall, then take a lengthy route behind the closet and exit near the ceiling at the rear shop wall. That turned out to be easier than routing the exhaust up through the attic space. The door will be shop made and filled with sand.

I've done something similar before and it works well enough.


Next two pictures give an idea of the exhaust route.

 

[Cabinetman]

Thanks for that Gary, I shall be doing something similar but in the attic space above my workshop soon, the sound deadening is interesting but not necessary in my case.
You’ve made the closet just big enough for the extractor, will you pull the machine out to change the bag? I always find it a very tedious and not easy job needing at least three hands. And will you be putting a light in there?
Ian

 

[Cabinetman]

Just realised how your return works, why the circuitous route? I shall be using a rectangular air filter such as you might use in a forced air ac and furnace system. Do you think I am making a mistake doing it this way?

 

[kirkpoore1]

Just realised how your return works, why the circuitous route? I shall be using a rectangular air filter such as you might use in a forced air ac and furnace system. Do you think I am making a mistake doing it this way?

I'm betting its for better sound attenuation. A filter would catch dust, but that's the job of the DC's filter so there shouldn't be much coming out.

Kirk

 

[Mike G]

Blimey, you really don't want to hear your extractor, do you!

 

[GaryR]

I'm betting its for better sound attenuation. A filter would catch dust, but that's the job of the DC's filter so there shouldn't be much coming out.

Kirk

Exactly. The longer the path the more sound vibrations will be absorbed by the walls of the vent and dissipated as heat.

This collector uses two large cartridge filters rather than a bag. I'll be able to detach and remove those for cleaning when needed.

 

[Cabinetman]

Crikey that’s almost 8’ high. Yes I see how it all works now thanks.
After living with a big three bag extractor in the same room as me for years I am determined that there won’t be any dust residue on everything and in me anymore! Hence the filter.

 

[JamesHow]

Crikey that’s almost 8’ high. Yes I see how it all works now thanks.
After living with a big three bag extractor in the same room as me for years I am determined that there won’t be any dust residue on everything and in me anymore! Hence the filter.

I have breeze block missing in my shed build to allow ducting to go out to a simple snail dx.

 

[Cabinetman]

I have breeze block missing in my shed build to allow ducting to go out to a simple snail dx.

Not possible unfortunately as it’s a terraced building with no outside, maybe I could have walled it in I suppose.

 

[GaryR]

The closet is nearly done. I need to add the second layer of drywall to the front face, cut a hole for the intake duct, and make a sand filled door. The door will be quite heavy so I've planned for four, ball bearing hinges.

I will be very glad when this is finished. I'm not very good at carpentry and dislike working with drywall/gypsum board immensely. But I do like a quiet(er) shop. I hope this works.

 

[Cabinetman]

Well it certainly should, as long as all the air gaps are sealed, I agree
I also really hate working with plasterboard, vile stuff.

 

[duke]

Yes it looks like you are struggling with the D/W. Are you going to use a metal corner bead or gluing on a plastic one?
The broken bit at the tapered edge at the corner should be cut out then apply your bead and pre-fill before taping.
Maybe use a sheetrock 90 or 45 to speed the process up.

 

[GaryR]

That corner is going to take a lot of hits, I expect. I'm planning a metal corner bead and/or covered with a wood corner trim.
And I'll just replace that panel with the broken corner. I have plenty of scraps that will fit.

To be honest, I really don't want to get better at this. I just want to be done!

 

[GaryR]

A little prettier. I used up some scraps for the second layer, which explains the extra joints. All taped up and one more pass with joint compound to go. I'm going to leave the inside unpainted. I have something different in mind for the outside.

 

[Cabinetman]

Looks a lot more like it should Gary, I see you’ve kept it off the floor, no doubt for damp reasons, but what will you seal that gap with?
I’m into gap sealing at the mo lol.

 

[GaryR]

Yes, the closet sits on 2x6 pressure treated cill plates anchored to the concrete floor. That gap and all others will be sealed with "green glue sealant."

 

[GaryR]

More incremental progress. I've decided go ahead and paint the inside. And I'm going to use a Japanese lime plaster for the outside, for practice.

 

[GaryR]

Interior got one coat of white. Exterior got a coat of sealer plus masonry sand to give the surface some tooth for the plaster to come. After all this work I sure hope the dust collector fits.

 

[GaryR]

OK, the next steps did not go well. Someone completely mis-measured the height of the hole for the intake duct on the face of the closet. There was nothing else to do but remove the door frame and get out the demolition saw. Fortunately, I had not yet started to make the door. Which will now be much shorter. It will all more or less work out, but I'm upset with the architect.

 

[duke]

What a bummer and no room to raise it up. I guess you gave the architect a what for

 

[Cabinetman]

Well it just goes to show you’re human, we’ve all done it and will no doubt do so, hard luck.

 

[AndyP]

Anyone who never made a mistake never made anything.
By the time it’s all finished nobody will ever know.

 

[JamesHow]

OK, the next steps did not go well. Someone completely mis-measured the height of the hole for the intake duct on the face of the closet. There was nothing else to do but remove the door frame and get out the demolition saw. Fortunately, I had not yet started to make the door. Which will now be much shorter. It will all more or less work out, but I'm upset with the architect.



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Well you did employ an architect!