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Trimble Towers Workshop - Fitting out begins...

Afternoon all

Little bit of progress this weekend. Other window in place and I’ve outsourced the making of the door to a mate given my lack of time at the moment, so he’s drawing up my idea this week to price up.

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All the drains (foul and grey), trunking (containing SWA, cat 6, alarm cable and two pull strings), Andi water pipe are now signed off by BCO and buried, with turf replaced and starting to look okay again.

Question for the group, my SWA has been terminated in the CU by my mate and he has told me to mark out where I want the sockets and lights to go and he will bob round when he has an hour or two between shifts and get cracking on it for me.

So my question is, what do I need?? I’ve worked on the basis of a double appx every 1.5m around the room which gives around 20 doubles around the room. I’ve asked for a couple more doubles up in the underside of the joists if my mez for keeping cables up high, and also need at least one high up for my jet air cleaner.

Anything else I should factor in now...?

Cheers
Mark

PS I have seen your derogatory comments on Malc’s post about my lack of progress. Hurtful!
 
Good to see this is progressing Mark.

You might want to consider at this stage some sockets that can remain powered on when the rest are isolated when you leave the building by an isolator/switch by the door.

This allows a few sockets to be left on for battery charging and perhaps background heating but leaving everything else isolated.
It is also advantageous if at least some of the lighting can remain powered up in the event of a power trip on the ring that powers the machines. This can be achieved by using RCBO in the consumer unit.
The alternative of using one RCD in the CU and conventional MCBs means that in the event of an earth leakage related trip, all the power will be cut so you might be in the dark as machines run down possibly for 10s of seconds as most braking systems will not work without power.

Naturally type C breakers on all machine powering circuits and consider a few 16/32amp outlets for future proofing.

None of these are essential but nice to haves and so much easier to install at the outset.

I note that you have not adopted BRUB (Bob's really useful bus) but brownie points for cat 6! :lol:

Bob
 
Coming along nicely, Mark.

I can't help it if those nasty boys have hijacked my thread to make hurtful remarks about you!!

I won't let them come to my party!
 
Cheers Bob.

I have 2 runs of bell wire and loads of room for more so BRUB is a distinct possibility.

Malc - thanks mate, you’re a good un! ;)


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Malc2098":68ve6uax said:
Coming along nicely, Mark.

I can't help it if those nasty boys have hijacked my thread to make hurtful remarks about you!!

I won't let them come to my party!
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Bugger! I'll be geriatric before Mark's party, so I guess I'll just have to have jelly and ice-cream alone at home.
 
Mind you, if he didn't waste all that time kicking around an inflated pigs' bladder, he'd have been finished by now. :eusa-whistle:
 
You getting there Mark. And remember football isn't a matter of life and death.... it's far more important than that :)
 
Andyp":2mwfl6hj said:
You getting there Mark. And remember football isn't a matter of life and death.... it's far more important than that :)
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:lol: :eusa-clap:

If only it was just football. Kids have clubs almost every night which pretty much wipes out evening working because I finish work, sort kids out to/from activities, then feed us all, then homework or chilling, then bed. By that time it's 21:00 and the thought of going out and doing workshop stuff is the last thing I need.

Work is insane since we've just farmed my job out to a large Telco as a managed service, so my workload should go down, but in the short term rockets up while I have to spend time handing stuff over to them. I still have a job, so that's no longer a stress, but the workload is bonkers at the moment.

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel though, so just powering on through until I break the back of it and start to see the benefit of having handed the bulk over.

In the meantime, Saturday mornings are football for both of them until around 13:00 for Him and 14:00 for her (football 10-11, singing 11:30-12:30, still in her football kit :lol: then ballet 12:30-2). Sunday morning's I play football, in theory, every other week as player/manager of my Veteran's team. That football puts pressure on the family too as really that should be family time, but in reality it's also my only 'me' time, where I can de-stress by booting ball or man...

Hey ho, found some time this weekend, and only two more matches for me and 3 for the kids, then I get my weekends back and it will be all the steam I can muster to get the workshop alive.

Cheers
Mark
 
I really enjoyed doing the wiring for the workshop. A laser is really helpful for the conduit.... Plenty of sockets of course.

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Jimmy Mack":j5syepww said:
I really enjoyed doing the wiring for the workshop. A laser is really helpful for the conduit.... Plenty of sockets of course.

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Got a bit up so far and will use spare time here and there to get more in.

Currently looking like this, split board CU, something like 22 double sockets, dedicated separate circuit for tablesaw, 2 separate lighting rigs, 2 separate ring mains, isolation (mushroom) switch to turn everything off (keep kids from having an accident), separate double outside of isolation for chargers, overhead double in the handbooks area, roof mounted double for air cleaner, outdoor weatherproof socket and a switched fused spur for some outside lighting.

Just need to get it all run in now...
 
TrimTheKing":3ag5iobj said:
Jimmy Mack":3ag5iobj said:
I really enjoyed doing the wiring for the workshop. A laser is really helpful for the conduit.... Plenty of sockets of course.

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Got a bit up so far and will use spare time here and there to get more in.

Currently looking like this, split board CU, something like 22 double sockets, dedicated separate circuit for tablesaw, 2 separate lighting rigs, 2 separate ring mains, isolation (mushroom) switch to turn everything off (keep kids from having an accident), separate double outside of isolation for chargers, overhead double in the handbooks area, roof mounted double for air cleaner, outdoor weatherproof socket and a switched fused spur for some outside lighting.

Just need to get it all run in now...
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Looks good I thought about an isolator (kids safe) tho it's a bit tricky with the 3 phase machines, so I rotary isolate at the machines...I have two (premium, mk) single sockets on radials for two 2k heaters (fan and oil)..

Jim

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Lots going on at Trimble Towers at the moment. Just had a wall built to hide the oil tank, but also created a storage area to tidy away garden furniture, BBQ's, wheely bins etc

It's gone from this...
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To this...
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Plan is now to grow that wisteria (which flowers beautifully) around the wall to soften it a bit, although I think it's a lovely bit of brickwork again. Then look at potentially a pergola style top and poles around the 'courtyard' area to give a nice shaded area to sit and eat, but that's one to ponder.

I've also shifted all non essential crap, unused building materials and general detritus from the garden into a massive skip and set to on filling the beds around the workshop with topsoil/compost mix and planting a couple of honeysuckle and clematis to climb the walls and soften them a little.

My mate managed to get a couple of hours yesterday indoors and get a load of the trunking and sockets in. Enough sockets round those two sides anyone...? :D

There's also a couple of ceiling mounted ones underneath the mezzanine just in case and another 4 to go down the other wall, then lighting and single socket for the roof mounted air cleaner.

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Progress is progress...
 
Nice progress. The garden's looking great.

I cans ee this is turning into a socket race! :D
 
Malc2098":t7w25agn said:
Nice progress. The garden's looking great.

I cans ee this is turning into a socket race! :D
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I think I'll have 22 doubles in there by the time it's finished! Might have gone a little overboard... :lol:
 
Exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking of there Bob, looks great that. :text-bravo:

What do you do, just trim out new shoots each sprint or just wind them back into the mass?
 
Good job, love a Wisteria. We accidentally killed ours, it was large and in a small pot ... the warm weather when our first was born and a lack of attention to watering ruined it [emoji25]

Interesting conduit work, is there a reason for all the drops? Seems like a lot of extra work. Why not one and a horizontal run?

You can never have enough sockets [emoji106]

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Jimmy Mack":3blh4bre said:
Good job, love a Wisteria. We accidentally killed ours, it was large and in a small pot ... the warm weather when our first was born and a lack of attention to watering ruined it [emoji25]

Interesting conduit work, is there a reason for all the drops? Why not one and a horizontal run?

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Very good question mate, haven't a clue, that's just how my mate laid it out and I didn't really think... :eusa-think:
 
That's beautiful Bob... is it old? Did you grow it from small?
9fingers":1d84bs9c said:
Looking good Mark!

Can't beat wisteria for both shade and a couple of weeks in flower.



Bob
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[emoji23] well it looks very tidy [emoji106]

I've had a big move about in my shop and I might have to rejig some of the socket work [emoji31] I put extra in were my bench was, but after a while I realised the layout wasn't quite working. Not sure how you've found it, but It's the hardest bit I find, predicting how the space is going to flow [emoji848]

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TrimTheKing":aviizab6 said:
Exactly the kind of thing I'm thinking of there Bob, looks great that. :text-bravo:

What do you do, just trim out new shoots each sprint or just wind them back into the mass?
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A mix of the two Mark. Initially we had one half of the pergola covered with a non fruiting grape vine and the other with wisteria. When the grapevine caught something nasty and died, we trained the long wisteria shoots towards the gaps which in a couple of years filled it in nicely. Now it just gets a rather brutal trim with a hedge trimmer on a pole after flowering. New vertical growth soon gets weighed down and travels horizontally to the edges when either the hedge trimmer gets it or it self regulates.

I've heard proper gardeners talk about the intricacies of pruning to maximise flowering density etc but ours has seemed to have flourished ok with sporadic brutality.

The main stem throws up loads of shoots during the growing season and once established these are largely unwanted so can be "rubbed off" with fingers flush with the trunk every few weeks during the growing season. These quickly get to a few feet long otherwise.

We like the cleanish look of a bare trunk and horizontal growth/flowers.

There- that is more than I though I knew about wisteria.

hth
Bob
 
Jimmy Mack":264ugqz3 said:
[emoji23] well it looks very tidy [emoji106]

I've had a big move about in my shop and I might have to rejig some of the socket work [emoji31] I put extra in were my bench was, but after a while I realised the layout wasn't quite working. Not sure how you've found it, but It's the hardest bit I find, predicting how the space is going to flow [emoji848]

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That's why I just whacked in loads, that way there will be a socket wherever I need one, with dedicated ones for air cleaner, DX and TableSaw, and a separate couple of doubles on a split circuit so I can leave them on as a charging area while disabling all the main sockets for child safety purposes.
 
Jimmy Mack":2mx78xop said:
That's beautiful Bob... is it old? Did you grow it from small?
9fingers":2mx78xop said:
Looking good Mark!

Can't beat wisteria for both shade and a couple of weeks in flower.



Bob
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Yes the plant was a gift from someone who worked at the local garden centre and rejected by them as it was growing at a jaunty angle and just not selling. The trunk is about 6" diameter at soil level now. Possibly around 25 years old now!

Bob
 
TrimTheKing":19op5d6e said:
Jimmy Mack":19op5d6e said:
Good job, love a Wisteria. We accidentally killed ours, it was large and in a small pot ... the warm weather when our first was born and a lack of attention to watering ruined it [emoji25]

Interesting conduit work, is there a reason for all the drops? Why not one and a horizontal run?

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Very good question mate, haven't a clue, that's just how my mate laid it out and I didn't really think... :eusa-think:
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Also, are you planning on wall cabinets? Isn’t that conduit going to limit rather than one line at socket box level?
 
Well the regs used to say for domestic you could only go horizontal at the top and bottom of the wall but i thought that was for chased in circuits

Mind you i last did the 16th so few changes since then lol i should really update to the newest edition but i dont use it anymore really

Its going to be a bastard pulling the ring back through that though there is a lot to be said for sockets on dado trunking

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MattS":1fp57y4y said:
Also, are you planning on wall cabinets? Isn’t that conduit going to limit rather than one line at socket box level?
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Might be a faff but I always use French cleats on cabinets so making them deep enough to go over the trunking shouldn’t be a massive issue.
 
Bucks woodshop":3lgzkozu said:
Well the regs used to say for domestic you could only go horizontal at the top and bottom of the wall but i thought that was for chased in circuits

Mind you i last did the 16th so few changes since then lol i should really update to the newest edition but i dont use it anymore really

Its going to be a bastard pulling the ring back through that though there is a lot to be said for sockets on dado trunking

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Using singles so shouldn’t be too bad at all. The lad doing the work is a time served spark and all electrics are his suggestion including 25mm trunking and pulling singles so I’m happy to bow to his knowledge.
 
Me too but i moved into plcs and automation and now management so i cant self cert anymore but really need to get back up to date on this for when i do the extension and relocate the workshop

Yeah i thought singles still a pain in conduit though good job its trunking

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Singles in conduit + 25mm is the way to go but I cant think for life of me why he would do it in drops ! Each to their own and must have his reasons. Very nice job.
 
jules70":2ngfve7o said:
Singles in conduit + 25mm is the way to go but I cant think for life of me why he would do it in drops ! Each to their own and must have his reasons. Very nice job.
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Really don’t know mate. So long as it works and is compliant (and means I can get in ASAP) then I’m happy. ;)
 
My sparks did my wiring the same way as Mark's...trunking and drops.
 
Seems to me having all those drops will get in the way of hanging cupboards, as well as a waste of cable.

Great progress though Mark.
 
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